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Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't

    mustang Re: Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't posted Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:43:00 GMT (6/29/2001) edit


    United States

    Post 91 of 2223
    Since 3/29/2001
    "no meetings, no field service, no guilt"
    Danny Bear

    I feel a tee-shirt coming on.

    Mustang
    no more pioneer, no guilt

    WildHorses Re: Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't posted Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:54:00 GMT (6/29/2001) edit


    United States North Carolina

    Post 87 of 5693
    Since 4/24/2001
    TR,

    I know exactly what you mean. When I was a witness, I worked a full time job. I sometimes didn't get home until 6:30pm, had to take a shower get my three children dressed for the meeting, drive thirty minutes to the kingdom hall. Went to evey meeting, did field service on the weekend, and was still told that I sould be trying harder.

    With three kids being a single parent, that is impossible. I always felt that they felt I was bad association reguardless of how hard I tried. I feel at ease now knowing that it's all over and I can live a normal life now.

    Free2Bme Re: Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't posted Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:24:00 GMT (6/29/2001) edit



    Post 89 of 181
    Since 5/16/2001
    One thing I absolutely hated was the cross-questioning you got off everybody after you missed a meeting. Sometimes you got phone-calls. They couldn't even wait till the next meeting.
    I used to get so defensive.I objected to answering to all and sundry for what essentially was between me and Jehovah.
    Only illness was an acceptable reason.
    Our congregation had it's public talk etc Sunday afternoons. That meant you could never go away all through the summer. Even on proper holidays you were expected to seek out the KH. For crying out loud we once attended a meeting in Spain that we couldn't understand one word of!
    Sometimes I wish I could go back just to stand up for myself and show them how much unnecessary stress they give people.
    Then again maybe not...

    Free

    Fredhall Re: Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't posted Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:55:00 GMT (6/29/2001) edit




    Post 997 of 3499
    Since 2/5/2001
    Admit It All,

    YOU WISH THAT YOU HAVE NOT LEFT THE ORGANIZATION

    Francois Re: Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't posted Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:19:00 GMT (6/29/2001) edit


    United States Georgia

    Post 613 of 5779
    Since 3/31/2001
    You folk are telling fantastic stories about your experiences in the Borg. And it seems that so many of you are beating up on yourselves for having been in. I mean, look at the title of this thread.

    But I think maybe there's something you've forgotten to give yourselves credit for: YOU GOT OUT. All those other idiots are still in. Think about that.

    Cults attract and hold people who are psychologically and emotionally in trouble, people who are not normally-minded. But you left. Perhaps you were attracted by the honey the Dubs used to bait their trap; perhaps you were attracted by the illusion of a stable truth in an unstable and ugly world. For whatever reason, you were attracted and you joined.

    When you woke up; when the Borg reverted to type (or anti-type, as the case may be) and showed its true colors; when the "truth" began to be compromised to the bureaucracy - you looked around, smelled the coffee, and being of the normally-minded, you did what all normal people do in the circumstances. First you tried to fix it. When that proved impossible in the face of an intractable refusal to accept truth, you did the next best thing: you cut your loses and you left. And you have some really scary, scary stories from your days in the Borg. Just like Captain Picard.

    Congratulations are due. Congratulations are due you one and all.

    Congratulations!!

    Franc

    Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.

    Disengaged Re: Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't posted Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:45:00 GMT (6/29/2001) edit




    Post 9 of 195
    Since 6/5/2001
    TR

    Great post, but you know as an old friend told me "IT'S NEVER ENOUGH"

    IBBEROEAN "Just making sure!"

    Thirdson Re: Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't posted Sat, 30 Jun 2001 01:02:00 GMT (6/30/2001) edit


    United States Minnesota

    Post 312 of 1383
    Since 2/5/2001
    Hi to all the good people here!

    There are so many good things being said about the "bad" here! I can identify with so much. For about 6 years my then wife didn't take much of an active part and I know why and eventually I felt the same way. However, the pressure was always on. For a few years I tried to aux pioneer at least one month in the year. I'd take a weeks vacation to do as much of the 60 hours as possible that week and still have some semblance of life the other three weeks (a JW and have a life, ha!) I timed it to be an Aux Pio during the CO's visit an attend the pioneer meeting. But I got a condescending tone from the last CO because I wasn't a "real" pioneer.

    At ine time I did the cong' accounts, stayed late after every meeting, couldn't miss meetings, did my 10 hours, was a book study conductor, a father, had a full time job etc, ect, not much different to everyone else here. I did use to cheat and underline the Watchtower in 5 to 10 minutes frequently. When asked to read the Watchtower one Sunday, (not my turn) I confessed to not having prepared and declined. (I could have read it without preparation better than anyone else anytime but thought it was not right...for my sin I didn't read again for 2 years when I was allowed to again following my appointment as elder). When I gave up "lording" over the flock I felt the pressure reduce considerably, felt so good, I quit FS soon afterwards.

    Free2bme,

    You went to one in Spain! We went to a KH in Italy and didn't understand a word! I hated the questioning as well. I made all sorts of excuses, work was a good one. I'd stay late and get home about 7:00 p.m if I didn't a part, too late to get cleaned up and go out again.

    I still think life can be quite an ordeal. I can't imagine how I coped being a JW.

    Thirdson

    'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'

    TR Re: Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't posted Sat, 30 Jun 2001 01:49:00 GMT (6/30/2001) edit


    United States Washington

    Post 1031 of 4686
    Since 9/18/2000
    Hey guys,

    it just feels good to know that I wasn't the only one stressing. Not that I want others to stress! I think I'd either be dead or on heart medication if I hadn't got out when I did.

    Of course, the point of this thread is to show the dysfunctional nature of being a "good" JW.

    Fred, stick a dildo in your ear, assuming that you've pulled your head out first.

    TR

    "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every
    form of tyranny over the mind of man." --Thomas Jefferson*

    TR Re: Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't posted Sat, 30 Jun 2001 07:16:00 GMT (6/30/2001) edit


    United States Washington

    Post 1035 of 4686
    Since 9/18/2000
    Fred,

    Time to change the bulb. Sorry, I couldn't help it!


    "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every
    form of tyranny over the mind of man." --Thomas Jefferson*

    jodiann Re: Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't posted Sat, 30 Jun 2001 08:26:00 GMT (6/30/2001) edit



    Post 1 of 12
    Since 6/29/2001
    Poor, Poor Joel!
    Remember Jehovah loves a cheerful giver and he is a happy God!!
    Keep up the good work and keep happy!
    jodiann Re: Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't posted Sat, 30 Jun 2001 08:32:00 GMT (6/30/2001) edit



    Post 2 of 12
    Since 6/29/2001
    Joel,Joel well done!!!
    Remember Jehovah loves a cheerful giver!
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