To Maximus

Farkel, I'm nobobdy, and I mean no disrespect to your friend.  However, if you feel this is in anyway offensive, please have Simon delete it immediately and please accept my profound apology. 

To Maximus

We've never met, but I feel as if I have come to know you through your messages on this board.   Please excuse me, but I've taken the liberty the past few weeks to read through the archives and, in particular, your postings.  I've come to know not the literal man, but the inner person inside who shines through with his wit, intelligence, compassion, kindness and most of all, goodness.  I've come to know your spirit, your soul, and it's an old soul; wise and gentle.  In your messages, what is clear is that you were genuinely interested in helping others, not out of a self-centered motive but out of honest concern for your fellow man.  This is the true expression of Christianity, for you did not seek any benefit to yourself.  You gave, without expectation of receiving. 

You once wrote:   " Click on the envelope to the left to see my hotmail address, and feel free to use it" and I am truly sorry your kind invitation was abused.  Farkel has said that you have been hurt, quite badly, by people here who took advantage of you.  This report has hit me hard.  I've spent hours lately lurking through old messages, long since forgotten, but to me it is all brand new and fascinating.  The information, advice and warnings you wrote have meant a great deal to me.  Sometimes I felt like a child listening as the adults talked around the table.  And I can't help but think if what you wrote means that much to me now, how much more it has meant to the men and women you've met face to face.  How many people have you counseled in order to open their minds?  How many lonely Bethel brothers did you provide a shoulder to cry on?  And how many times did you just listen as someone poured out their innermost thoughts?   

I am not one given to expressions of emotion.  Indeed, there have been many times my unemotional facade has protected me.  Yet when Farkel told how you had been devastated, I broke down and truly grieved.  Despite everything, I still believe, perhaps foolishly, in God, a Higher Power who will one day correct human folly.  I choose to believe God, this Higher Power, is aware of your good deeds and loving attitude.  I choose to believe your God smiled his approval and holds you close.

Peace,

Chris

 

Did Maximus leave the forum due to needless abuse? If this is what I'm thinking, it would remind me of the overweight teenager who outwardly remark that the comments made about his weight did not bother him, then commits suicide. He left a note saying, he could not bear the criticism.

Guest 77

General Maximus is one cool dude.

He phoned me up out of the blue when Marvin, Max and I worked on the Dr. Gorman letter (Go read the Oct. 15, 2000 WT rag, QFR and you will see what I mean).  After that he was one of the few who understood my investigations of monochorionic gestation and how it related to the blood doctrine (ie. 2 individuals (ie. fetuses) "naturally" sharing whole blood).  I remember posting all about it in March 2001 and got zero responses.  Then I told Max all about it a few months later.  After Max did his annoucement, I was able to really get the information out to the free world.  I can't thank him enough.  Of course some silly UN scandal kinda slowed me down a little but I managed to release and publish my information on the "Research on the Watchtower" web site.

Maximus, last I heard, is definitely not very well and I have missed him.  His sickness is the reason why he is not here and not responses from some posters on this board.  He was only around for a little bit during the start of the UN scandal and of course has missed a lot of the major press that Bill and the gang have received.  I am very proud of him and what he did accomplish. 

With any luck, he may come back but not right at the moment.

What was General Maximus' comment near the beginning of movie titled "Gladiator" .... hmmm ... I think it went ... WHEN I GIVE THE SIGNAL, UNLEASH HELL!!! .... yeah, I think we've done that around here.

hawk

 

Edited by - hawkaw on 22 October 2002 7:59:40

Edited by - hawkaw on 22 October 2002 8:0:54

hawkaw, thanks for the info.

Guest 77

MAXIMUS, if you are reading this, many here realize the board will NEVER be the same without you. I hope your health improves. You are in our thoughts.

I miss him too. 

But I can understand why he might not want to come back.  I have already seen what only a few unhappy people can do with their words.  I guess some felt his past made him an acceptable target.

Blondie

Thanks Maximus.

Maximus,

In life, some persons are very special to us, for many diffrent reasons. You touched our hearts with your e-mails and encouraged Mrs Ozzie greatly.

Hardly a day goes by, that Mrs Ozzie doesn't ask after you. I hope you have peace. Please know you're in our thoughts and hearts.

Our e-mail addy is the same.

Ozzie and Mrs Ozzie

While Maximus was hurt by posts from a few losers last year, the reason he quit posting was because of extremely serious health and personal problems. He has spent the last year healing. He and I have had limited contact during that time, but recently he seems to be getting better. Time will tell if he returns to his old self.

Maximus happens to be one of the finest and most brilliant people I have ever known. His concern for his fellow human beings is astounding, and likely makes him one of his own worst enemies.

If anyone wants to say anything to Maximus, please post it and I will see that he gets it.

AlanF

Max

 

is one of but a handful of posters  that  i have met in the 6 yrs of posting-- who i have spoken with personally who has a background in the INNER WORKINGS of the Org that are just UNREAL

 

his knowledge of the org allows one to see a side that very few are allowed to even see,

the vast majority of bethelites  like myself and others would never have access to the things that he did

we all look forward to the day he returns to share those GOLDEN GEMS

AlanF

Thanks.  I appreciate your thoughtfulness.  Whether Maximus returns or not, his good health is more important.  I'm very pleased to hear from you that he is doing better.  Thanks again

AlanF, I only got to know Maximus when he first posted here. We did share e-mails and we talked about private frustrations. My heart is heavy when I think about his very unfortunate situation and his poor health. If you contact him, please send him my heart felt regards for him, and my hope that his situation improves.

Alan, I'm glad that he is doing better.  Please send him my love and that I wish him well.  Thanks.

Shari

To Maximus through my most excellent friend Alan:

It goes without saying that your health comes first. We can always be a greater help to others if we ourselves are strong.

If and when you progress to the point where you can rejoin us, you will be most welcome. Your departure, as well as the departure of a few others, has left us diminished. Many of us here remember fondly a time when "bar" was set a little higher.

Much has been accomplished; battles are yet to be fought; wars are to be won. A good general is always needed.

Sincerely wishing you the best,

Wasa

Sometimes I wonder if it is selfish to hope people return when so many of us desire to leave this place. I am somewhat glad he never left because of people but am sad that it was due to health reasons. I hope things work themselves out fine.

Path

(Maximus and a friend? so many seeming similarities).

I don't know the reason you emphasized "friend", Path. I don't even know who you directed this to, since I can think of several possibilities. Email or otherwise contact me if you want to clue me in.

It's never selfish to wish that fine people return to any place. Whether they move on or not, they touch us and make us grow. They inform and teach us. Maximus did that, and if he wishes to continue, fine. If not, I will console myself with the knowledge that I have learned much from him.

AlanF

These three things Max,

1st) (and most important) Buck up little trooper

b) (and everybit as important as the first, like it, is this:) Don't take any Boudin niggles

tres) (and foremost) We're saving you a place at the head of the table, just give us a date for the party

 

Take care, and let me interview you sometime, k?

Not many had the pleasure of talking with and knowing Maximus.  His voice was a rich voice with timbre that carried a lot of weight and credibility.  A friend of mind who's known him for a long time said "he could have been anything he wanted to be.".  I agree.  He knew his history.  He knew his Bible.  He knew his medicine.  He knew his Latin.  The guy knew so much stuff that even someone as fearless as me was impressed! 

Maximus talked like the District Overseer that he was.  It pissed me off, and I told him so.  He was always in control and always in charge, and I told him that, too.  Yet, he was so full of compassion.  He is unique, and the Watchtower Printing Coporation lost one of their stars when he left.

Max spread himself thin trying to help others, and I warned him that he needed to take care of himself.  He agreed and yet he proceeded to push his health beyond its limits.  Max is stubborn.  I'm stubborn.  We know that about each other.

Max loves me.  He said so.  I love him.  I said so.  I would like to speak with my old friend again.

I miss him.

Alan:  you know what to do with these comments.

Farkel

 

Edited by - Farkel on 23 October 2002 0:53:47

The things Maximus posted were/are highlights of our days. In our infancy, his was the voice of hope. Again we say "thank-you" Maximus and are eagerly awaiting your return to good health.

Big Tex, that was a beautiful post.

I do hope that someone who is close to this person, that so many admire and miss, will relay the message to him.

 I have seen first hand how that someone would need a break , to refresh , after helping so many.

I have seen many good men in the congregations in the past trying so hard to help the friends. And there were always trouble makers who never appreciated it. I know my husband spent late hours trying to help ones , that only later said he didnt do enough. When you spread yourself , your time , and energies , so thin, it is bound to catch up with you.

I hope that someone will tell Maximus how many who never knew him, thank him for what he has done. If it were not for things Maximus said, my hubby might still be in borg, and our whole family, and that is just something I never want to even think about. Our family of 5 , now have a life, with many thanks to men like Maximus who stood their ground and worked tirelessly.

Alan..

"selfish" wasn't really the word I was looking for and it really doesn't convey my thoughts regarding people that hope those that leave return here. It was a poor choice.

I guess my comments more accurately reflect my own frustrations with my desire to move on from places like this and my own failure to do so. At times I get to thinking about what seems so futile and I just say things.

People come and go here and it is nice sometimes when persons who have made an impression cross your mind and someone lets us know how they are doing.

Path