Did John Denver hate the Witnesses?

No, never heard that one.

I *DID* hear the Charlton Heston hated dubs an awful lot - specifically because of their pacifist/no-gun leanings.

EDIT: (Again, back to USENET):

I'm almost 100% sure this is BS, but it matches the JW urban legend I had heard close enough.

*sigh* - gotta LOVE the dubs - just aren't happy unless they are being "persecuted".

Edited by - Xander on 19 July 2002 12:5:2

I will only admit to barely being able to remember the Merv Griffin Show. Or Dick Cavett

But I don't remember that about CH. I do remember that JWs realy admired him but

 I thought it was because of his portrayal of Moses.

Years ago when I lived in Colorado I was at a social gathering with Witnesses and this subject came up, and I asked if it was true that John Denver asked witnesses to leave his concerts, well one of my friend says, "yes it is true, I was there".  I guess he asked all Witnesses to stand and then asked them to leave.  There were other non-Witnesses there who were taken back by this and also walked off.  No national anthem though.

On a side note I have heard Gloria Estefan does not like Witnesses either.  But I never got rid of any of her albums though.

Yeah, and a friend of mine talked with a governing body member on a Bethel tour about the UN thing

There are two explanations for your friends answer:

1) As I showed above, there was apparently one Denver concert after an assembly where JWs were 'hanging around' without tickets, and he asked them to leave.  (Well, DUH, they didn't have tickets)

2) He is as full of hot air as my friend

Under the circumstances this makes sense. Besides in order for that to have happened

and thus leading to the episode on the tonight show they would have had to have been in a time capsule.

It just one of those incidents that started from something and latched onto the

 JW grapevine and grew and grew and grew.

It happens. blah blah blah. Don't lose sleep over it.

Oh, see, that was back in they heyday of the org - you know, before the current 'wild beast turning against babylon the great' thing.  Back in the days when 50% of EVERY staff were JWs.

You remember then, right?   

JW to Bob Hope - "I'm so glad you recognize that JW's aren't as bad as people say.  Oh, and by the way, I hope you die before Armageddon so you get a resurrection."

I heard the John Denver thing when I was in.  It wouldn't surprise me if he had it out for JW's, as he seemed really sentimentally patriotic.

I heard once that Clint Black would ask JW's to leave his concerts.  Oh, big disappointment missing a Clint Black concert (yes, country music fans, feel free to be insulted by that).

I've been at several Clint Black shows and never heard him say that. 

As to the John Denver story, it is one of those urban legends; sort of like the smurf doll story.  I have friends who live near his "house" and they always laughed when someone brought that up.  Their daughter worked for him and she was a JW.  Can't seem to kill that story and who says there is no resurrection or immortality.  (There has to be someone in the media that was there to hear that statement.  I can't believe it didn't make a news article.)

There is an interesting song on this Clint Black album:

http://www.lisahartman-black.com/etc.html

Jehovah (Geoffrey P. Thurman) (from "Knots Landing") 2:32
Consider the lilies of the field
Solomon dressed in royal robes has not the worth of them
Consider the lilies of the field
He takes after each and every need
Leave all your cares behind
Seek him and you will find
Your father loves you so
And Jehovah I love you so
And Jesus I want you to know
All you've done for me to set me free
I'll never let you go
And Jehovah I love you so
And Jesus I want you to know
All you've done for me to set me free
I'll never let you go
Consider the creatures of the air
For all of the diamonds in all the earth have not the wealth of them
Consider the creatures of the air
Jehovah loves them with tender hands
He knows your every care
His touch is always there
To see you through the night
And Jehovah I love you so
And Jesus I want you to know
All you've done for me to set me free
I'll never let you go
And Jehovah I love you so
And Jesus I want you to know
All you've done for me to set me free
I'll never let you go
And Jehovah I love you so

Edited by - Blondie on 19 July 2002 16:51:14

Double Edge et@l

EXCUSSSSSSSE ME....

I should have been more spicific.

THE CLEANING DEPARTMENT

I wasnt talking about Ed or The trumpet player and it probably didnt even include the GAFFERS

What the FuC*

Get over it 

why dont you just write the man before senility sets in AND ASK HIM YOURSELF

Edited by - plmkrzy on 19 July 2002 16:56:25

i posted on this before, search for my thread (i'm not doing the work), where i relate a story on smurfs, to teach a lesson on listening to gossip

i went to 4 JD concerts in my life, he never the national anthem thing.

i "DO" know he had a strong dislike for people who didn't vote (some public service announcement commerical on tv; which i seen and heard with mine own two ears & eyes).

BTW, what was the last thing JD said?

"ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

LOL@WIZ

Thats sick.

The National Anthem Thing was made up  and sprouted from something that happened 30 some years ago and it remarkable how many people want to HANG ON. People that weren't even BORN yet to boot.

Another JD JW UL: that JD's first wife Annie has become a JW and that was his reason for

hating JW's. That it ruined his relationship with her. Anyone else hear this?

I believe John Denver has been pretty well chalked up as another urban legend. But, I have to wonder about Kevin Costner with his film "A Perfect World." He's an escaped killer who is holding a small JW boy (the film makes sure you know he is a JW), and lets the little boy have all sorts of fun, like Halloween, while holding him and evading the law (Clint Eastwood).

I can't say the implied message there is an Urban Legend.

Lew W

Back in 1982 when I attended the elders' Kingdom Ministry school in Napa, California one of the elders told us that when he attended a District Convention in Hawaii, he and a group of his JW cronies visited Don Ho's club after the convention one evening.  Some of the group had their badges on.  Ho noticed this when he got up to perform.  So Ho says:  "I see we have some JWs here tonight.  How many of you are JWS?"  The elder said that they raised their hands acknowledging their religious preference.  Then Ho says:  "Then this next number is especially for you."  Then Ho plays the National Anthem.  So the elder and his friends had to sit there while everyone else stood up.  The elder was real pissed at Ho for that.  But this so-called Christian elder was real vindictive, because next he said that he had heard that Ho is suffering from cancer and that it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Athanasius