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JW's part of the WAR MACHINE

    pomegranate posted Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:03:00 GMT(7/16/2002)

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    This may be aleady known, but for those that don't know:

    The Watchtower Society owns stock in company called Rand Cam Engine Corporation, a division of Reg Technologies. This company makes components for smart bombs and the like. There is hard evidence available that you can examine to prove that the WTBTS is GUILTY to yourself.

    All companies who trade stock must complete quarterly company reports and file them with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). I will copy from this SEC report, the Watchtowers documented ownership in this company.

    This is the link:

    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/922330/000101540201502232/0001015402-01-502232.txt

    On this document, at Part 3, Item 11, page 24, you will see the majority stockholders listed. (You will have to scroll about 3/4 of the way down the page.) This is what you will see:

    Class A Shares Owned, Percentage of Class A Shares Owned

    John G. Robertson, Chairman of the Board
    of Directors, President and Director (1) (2) 5,966,050 58.37%

    The Watchtower Society (3) 5,257,900 51.44%

    James McCann (4) 5,257,900 51.44%

    Rand Energy Group Inc. (5) 5,257,900 51.44%

    Jennifer Lorette, Vice President and
    Director (6) 85,500 *

    James Vandeberg, Chief Operating Officer
    and Director 75,000 *

    Patrick Badgley, Vice President, Research
    and Development and Director
    75,000 *
    ALL EXECUTIVE OFFICERS &
    DIRECTORS AS A GROUP (FOUR
    INDIVIDUALS) (7) 6,201,550 60.67%

    Well, last December, Rand Cam signed a contract with the U.S. Navy to supply parts/engines for unmanned warcraft. Here is the press release that is on Reg Tech home pag:

    Navy Contract Awarded

    For Immediate Release: December 6, 2001 - Vancouver B.C. - Reg Technologies, Inc. (RRE.V / OTC BB: REG RF) and its U.S. subsidiary REGI U.S., Inc. (OTC BB: RGUS) wish to announce that a U.S. Navy contract (SBIR No1-144) has been awarded to Advanced Ceramics Research (prime contractor) and REGI U.S., Inc. to build and test a Naval 0.5 horsepower ceramic engine. The proposed engine is a four stroke Rand Cam engine utilizing continuous injection and combustion in a single combustion chamber. The engine will be of all ceramic construction to permit high temperature operation, without cooling, to effectively burn heavy oil. This new motor will be developed for powering the U.S. Navys new Smart War-fighter Array of Re-configurable Modules (SWARM) low cost unmanned aerial vehicle.

    REGI U.S., Inc. is currently in negotiations with Advanced Ceramics Research to license the Ceramic Rand Cam Engine for commercial and U.S. Navy applications for this type of engine. REGI U.S., Inc. will receive 30% of the Phase I budget and 50% of the Phase II budget when awarded. The contract should start before the end of the calendar year. The total Phase I and Phase II budgets is expected to be $850,000.

    The link for the above is here:

    http://www.regtech.com/

    First, click on the icon on the top of the page called "news." Then on the menu choices, pick December 6 2001 and the press release confirming their Naval contract will appear.

    JW's Anti War? More like Blood guilty eh?

    Edited by - pomegranate on 16 July 2002 8:4:39

    Kenneson posted Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:15:00 GMT(7/16/2002)

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    Pomengranate,

    There's a good discussion on this topic at:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=32179&site=3

    kat7302 posted Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:30:00 GMT(7/16/2002)

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    cheers for this info........It always amazes me to see all this stuff. I didnt know about this so thank you

    ErieGuy posted Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:34:00 GMT(7/16/2002)

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    ATTENTION JW.COM NEWCOMERS:_______

    This TOPIC is an old one, that is continously "recycled" by unscruptulous posters who deceptively try make this "issue" much larger than it truly is.______

    PLEASE do not let this particular DECEPTION (this poster and his cronies have more) cause you to believe that all posters here are "unscruptulous LIARS" or that issues such as "the WTS's molestation reporting problem", or "the WTS's United Nations NGO membership" are not GENUINE SCANDALS._______

    Just so you will know about this "NAVY CONTRACT" deception:_______

    A JW inventor named James McCann sold an "exclusive license" to his "ram-cam technology invention" to a non_JW named John Robertson._______

    Robertson paid McCann's Corporation (named Ram Cam Engine Corp) for McCann's invention with stock in Robertson's Corp. (named REG Technologies, Inc.) ________

    Somewhere in all this, McCann donated 50% of the shares in his own Corp to the Watchtower Society. However, McCann retained all voting rights to those shares._______

    Neither McCann, nor his Corp, NOR THE WTS has any say-so in what Robertson now does with the technology that he purchased from McCann.________

    McCann and Robertson have even been in at least one documented legal battle.________

    Additionally, McCann's original technology had to go through many improvements by Robertson's own engineers before it was marketable._______

    The "Navy contract" mentioned above is with REGI US, which is the American subsidiary of Robertson's REG TECH._______

    Again, NEITHER McCann nor the WTS have any control over Robertson or REGI US._______

    McCann donated shares, (amounting to 50%), of his own RAM CAM ENGINE CORP to the WTS, of which he retained ALL VOTING RIGHTS._______

    It was McCann's RAM CAM ENGINE CORP that received the REG TECH shares (49% MINORITY OWNER) as payment for receiving an "exclusive license" to market McCann's patent._______

    McCann controls RCEC, but he has no control over Robertson's REG TECH, other than to futilely vote RCEC's 49%.________

    The WTS has NO VOTE in RCEC matters, much less anything to do with Robertson's Corp._______

    After all that, THEN it is even a SEPARATE subsidiary Corp that is doing business with the NAVY. That is REGI US.________

    There is NO EVIDENCE that REGI US was doing military business at the time McCann donated RCEC stock to the WTS._______

    REGI US has lost money every year it as existed, and it has NEVER paid dividends to REG TECH, thus REG TECH could not have ever paid "dirty money" dividends to RCEC, and OBVIOUSLY the WTS has not received any such "dirty money" from RCEC._______

    Even if at some point 20 years from now REGI US were to make a profit, there is no guarantee that dividends would flow to REG TECH, or then from REG TECH to RCEC, or from RCEC to the WTS._______

    ______PLEASE DO NOT JUDGE THE "PEDOPHILE SCANDAL" BY THIS ATTEMPTED UNDERHANDED DECEPTION by some posters who do not represent everyone here at JW.COM (but unfortunately many._________

    WHY DO YOU PEOPLE INSIST ON BESMIRCHING THE PEDOPHILE SCANDAL WITH THIS MALARKY???

    pomegranate posted Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:03:00 GMT(7/16/2002)

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    The simple truth:

    The WTBTS owns stock in a WAR RELATED COMPANY. PERIOD.

    It is a DIRTY stock.

    Somewhere in all this, McCann donated 50% of the shares in his own Corp to the Watchtower Society. However, McCann retained all voting rights to those shares._______

    It is STILL dirty stock, and they STILL own it.

    Neither McCann, nor his Corp, NOR THE WTS has any say-so in what Robertson now does with the technology that he purchased from McCann.________

    It is STILL dirty stock, and they STILL own it.

    McCann and Robertson have even been in at least one documented legal battle.________

    And they STILL own their DIRTY LITTLE STOCK.

    Additionally, McCann's original technology had to go through many improvements by Robertson's own engineers before it was marketable._______

    THEY STILL OWN A DIRTY LITTLE STOCK.

    The "Navy contract" mentioned above is with REGI US, which is the American subsidiary of Robertson's REG TECH._______

    The DIRTY LITTLE STOCK is still in their hypocrital pockets.

    Again, NEITHER McCann nor the WTS have any control over Robertson or REGI US._______

    AND THEY STILL OWN the grimy dirty BLOOD GUILTY stock.

    McCann donated shares, (amounting to 50%), of his own RAM CAM ENGINE CORP to the WTS, of which he retained ALL VOTING RIGHTS._______

    WAR STOCKS OWNED BY THEM STILL, THAT THEY CHOOSE NOT TO SELL. WITH A TIE TO DEATH THAT EVEYONE SMELLS.

    It was McCann's RAM CAM ENGINE CORP that received the REG TECH shares (49% MINORITY OWNER) as payment for receiving an "exclusive license" to market McCann's patent._______

    DIRTY STOCK DIRTY STOCK. NO STINKING EXCUSE.

    McCann controls RCEC, but he has no control over Robertson's REG TECH, other than to futilely vote RCEC's 49%.________

    YET they STILL retain their DIRTY LITTLE STOCK in their greedy little hands.

    The WTS has NO VOTE in RCEC matters, much less anything to do with Robertson's Corp._______

    YET THEY STILL DON'T SELL THE GRIME BALL STOCK that KILLS KILLS KILLS.

    After all that, THEN it is even a SEPARATE subsidiary Corp that is doing business with the NAVY. That is REGI US.________

    WTBTS is HOLDING DIRTY SHARES they know it and RETAIN THE DIRTY LITTLE STOCK.

    There is NO EVIDENCE that REGI US was doing military business at the time McCann donated RCEC stock to the WTS._______

    THE POINT IS THEY ARE NOW (Since Dec 2001). Yet they STILL hold on to their DIRTY LITTLE STOCK.

    REGI US has lost money every year it as existed, and it has NEVER paid dividends to REG TECH, thus REG TECH could not have ever paid "dirty money" dividends to RCEC, and OBVIOUSLY the WTS has not received any such "dirty money" from RCEC._______

    DIRTY STOCK WILL BE DIRTY STOCK, we are talking DEATH BY WAR MACHINE, NOT PROFIT OR LOSE.

    Even if at some point 20 years from now REGI US were to make a profit, there is no guarantee that dividends would flow to REG TECH, or then from REG TECH to RCEC, or from RCEC to the WTS._______

    DIRTY STOCK. FILTHY ROTTEN DIRTY DIGUSTING STOCK THAT TIES THE JW's TO DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.

    gravedancer posted Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:13:00 GMT(7/16/2002)

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    I think this issue is a little silly to raise....(that's my opinion - and I am definitely not pro-WT.)

    If the shares were gifted to them and they cannot sell them what are they supposed to do?

    Furthermore, this is a TINY company - pretty much insignificant. To put its size in perspective, your local McDonalds franchise would cost more to purchase than this entire company.

    GD

    moman posted Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:35:00 GMT(7/16/2002)

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    <If the shares were gifted to them and they cannot sell them what are they supposed to do?>

    Keep the $$$ & be HYPOCRITES like they always do!

    CornerStone posted Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:52:00 GMT(7/16/2002)

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    Joined 3/16/2001

    No No No,

    The answer is quite simple. Borg central just has to GIVE AWAY their dirty little stock as a gift, or donate it to a charity ( WHOOPS!, they can't donate it since all charities are run and controlled by SATAN! ).

    Still, they don't HAVE to hold on to it if they don't want to. They keep it because their just trying to make money. That is, ofcourse, until the issue becomes one of embarrasement to them. THEEEN they will most certainly wash their hands of the stock.

    Remember, give it away. That's all. I don't think I'm wrong about this, I hope.

    CornerStone

    F Mary posted Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:17:00 GMT(7/16/2002)

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    ErieGuy:

    Who cares if they don't have any "voting" power - they still OWN STOCK in a war machine - END OF STORY!! And don't give us this crap about it being "a gift"..................If I won the lottery and wanted to give the WTB&TS $100,000 (0% chance of this happening!), they apparently will refuse it, because it's ill-gotten money made from GAMBLING!!

    So which is worse: accepting money from a lottery or accepting stock from a war maching???

    You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out.............

    deddaisy posted Wed, 17 Jul 2002 05:22:00 GMT(7/17/2002)

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    notice that erieguy has a total of 6 posts, and each one is basically the same jibberish calling posters liars and throwing in his infamous comment to

    "NOT LET THIS REFLECT ON THE PEDOPHILE SCANDAL..."

    this is his only reason for posting, to try to convince someone, anyone, that the WTS is, brace yourselves, innocent of any guilt, and the posters that expose the connection between the WTS and this company, as well as the SEC , and all the news releases, are all LYING and DECEPTIVE, but he, blessed one that he is, is telling you the truth.......then he throws in his plea to please not allow these lying posters to have you believe that the pedophile scandal is perhaps a LIE also.........he has ran his mouth in several threads concerning this but when confronted by the ones that he has called liars, he presents evidence, no actually he presents NO EVIDENCE that they are LIARS, but instead runs to a different thread and pastes his moronic defense there.

    in actuality, the WTS is listed on the 2001 SEC Filing as owning 51.44% of REGI US. REGI US, since at least 1993, has been gearing up to obtain defense contracts, and has, in fact, been awarded contracts including the US NAVY CONTRACT. Bottom line is anyone with a brain, some people are excluded right there, know that this is bullshit on the part of the WTS, but apparently it's worth the risk to the WTS because they certainly haven't ridden themselves of it. but erieguy chooses to ramble on about how it was only donated, they have no voting proxy, the company makes no money, on and on and on and on...............oh, and then he throws in his line about "please don't let the liars have you doubt the pedophile scandal." don't worry erie honey, we won't.........

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=30058&site=3&page=3

    Edited by - deddaisy on 17 July 2002 1:29:11

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