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New Date for Armageddon - 2015

    F Dawn posted Sun, 09 Jun 2002 23:49:00 GMT(6/9/2002)

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    The following is a message from another JW Forum I visited:

    I came across a scripture (Genesis 15:16) which says that God's people would return "in the fourth generation". True, it doesn't say where in the fourth generation but as they were to be in Egypt for 430 years then if they return in the fourth we're looking at generations being divided up into approx. 100 year chunks. Sooooo....as the begining of the end began in 1914 we could be staring at 2015???? -ish? Even if you look at how Jehovah works in 40 days/years chunks you can go from 1914 plus 40 years to approx 1935 (helloooo great crowd!!) and from there to 1975 (hellooo 6000 years of man's existence) it's only a hop-skip and a jump to 2015! -ish This, of course, is just one person's opinion there - but I'm wondering if it isn't stemming from some trickle of "new light"....anyone else heard this one?? Sorry - I have to quit visiting with you HEATHENS and get busy - I only have 13 years left to put in enough service hours to be saved (gasp!!!!!!!!!)

    F scootergirl posted Sun, 09 Jun 2002 23:53:00 GMT(6/9/2002)

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    ...it's only a hop-ski and a jump to 2015!

    For goodness sake! What thinking!

    M Francois posted Sun, 09 Jun 2002 23:58:00 GMT(6/9/2002)

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    Yeah, what thinking - or something. That's exactly how JWs think, though. It's called backing into a date.

    I backed into a date once. It was a costume party, and I backed into her while I was naked pretending to be a Parker House Roll. She wasn't amused.

    Same effect when you schedule an appropriate time for Jehovah to act, as in act and destroy damn near all his children for not being J-Dubs. He's my kinda God. And he likes foreskins, too. And burning animal fat - it's a restful order to the creator of the majesty of the universe and of mysterys profound. Yep foreskins and animal fat, um, burning animal fat. My kinda god.

    Francois

    Edited by - Francois on 9 June 2002 19:58:18

    joeshmoe posted Sun, 09 Jun 2002 23:58:00 GMT(6/9/2002)

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    Well, let's see... carry the 2, square the result... add a Gentile time, subtract a Pyramidic measure... stir gently annnnnd... by golly I think they've got it!

    M Realist posted Sun, 09 Jun 2002 23:58:00 GMT(6/9/2002)

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    it would be fantastic if they would dare to predict a new armageddon date! but i am afraid they wont be so stupid to change their current irrefutable position! :(

    Sentinel posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:00:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    Hello Dawn,

    Actually, aside from any NEW information or enlightenment from the borg, I have discovered in my research of the Mayan calendar, that our universe is on the verge of something quite spectaculor in the year 2012. It seems the planets are aligning, and this new planet, just now coming back into our galaxy is of great interest to NASA. I am believing with all my heart that rather than all non JW's being destroyed, we will all be awakened to our individual souls purpose for being here in the first place.

    There is so much out there.

    Take from the good, and leave the rest.

    Friend,

    Karen/Sentinel

    joeshmoe posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:05:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    Yes, they've always been so precient about what's "stupid" and what's not, haven't they Realist?

    Hey Dawn, LOL but according to my thinking (informed by 1975), you can hang with us till 2014 (-ish), then just sell your home and car and go D-to-D all day till the end comes!!

    Farkel posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:08:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    That 40 Jubilee cycle makes good sense, EXCEPT you forgot to include the "year for a day" RULE. According to the wonderful framework of Daniel 4, we can see that 40 Jubilee years are years of days, which are in turn days of years. So the next Bible-based "spiritual" Jubilee from 1914 will be,.....let's see that's 40 times 360 lunar days using the Babylonish calendar that was adopted by the Israelites, and ignoring the months inserted to make the calendar work with the solstices and we have 14,400 more years, added to today's year of 2002, means that Armageddon will come on October 5, 16,402 C.E. at 5:07 p.m. Eastern Standard Time or 10:07 p.m. Greenich Mean Time.

    Be sure and mark your calendars. You wouldn't want to mis that.

    Farkel

    Edited by - Farkel on 9 June 2002 20:9:17

    Satanus posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:08:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    The bible is like that: they can pull anything out that they want. I suppose people will keep doing that for another millenium or 2 until the thing is finally thrown on the trash heap of history.

    SS

    F Incense_and_Peppermints posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:13:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    <P><FONT size=2>
    For goodness sake! ; What thinking!
    </FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>jehovah's witnesses don't think. they check their brains in at the door of the kingdom halls.</FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>"The leader is good<BR>the leader is great<BR>We surrender our will<BR>as of this date." - the movementarians</FONT> </P><FONT size=2> <P><FONT size=2></FONT> ;</P> <P></FONT> ;</P>

    Kismet posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:20:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    you can go from 1914 plus 40 years to approx 1935 (helloooo great crowd!!) and from there to 1975 (hellooo 6000 years of man's existence) it's only a hop-skip and a jump to 2015! -ish

    Umm 1914 + 40 years would bring you to 1954 1954 + 40 = 1994 1994 + 40 = 2034 Still can't quite figure out where 1975 or 2015 comes into the picture

    joeshmoe posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:21:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    With all the 'math' JW's find in the Bible, how long is it gonna be before they announce a new "Theocratic Math School"?

    That'd have some interesting 'counsel' points, eh? Explain how we blew it with 1799, 1874,1878, how we 'saved' ourselves on 1914, why 'millions aren't still living' since 1925, how we never really said anything about 1975,etc...

    have I left any out?

    M Realist posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:31:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    @ joeshmoe:

    LOL that is very true! however i have the impression they unfortunately gave up on precise predictions. no more king of the north nonsense, no more armageddon dates...really sad that...makes the whole thing less fun.

    F blondie posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:36:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    In 1919 the JWs (then known as Bible Students) supposedly received their preaching commission

    Noah was given 120 years to preach and build the ark before the flood would sweep away humankind.

    1919

    plus

    120 equals

    2039 AD for the end to come.

    (Just kidding)

    joeshmoe posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 00:43:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    You're right Realist. It's so much easier to be vague (but I still think they can't resist!).

    M Jim_TX posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 03:10:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    "...1914 plus 40 years to approx 1935..."

    I think poor Dawn is another 'victim' of 'home schooling' - the JW way.

    <sigh>

    Regards,

    Jim TX

    M William Penwell posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 05:49:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    As the numbers of the Dubs start to decline they will be forced to try what has been successful for them in the past , that is using scare tactics. Most Jdubs now, came in after the 1975 scare, so they will be "ripe for the picking". They will have them urgently out their preaching because the time is so short. It is funny because today i heard a Dub admitting of the past mistakes of the WTS making predictions.

    M professor posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 05:58:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    Is it just me or is the html on this page screwed up? I tried reloading a few times but I still get a really W I D E page. Hmm...

    mustang posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 06:06:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    Professor,

    It is really messed up; line lengths at least 200 characters & other stuff.

    Looks like some changes going on with posting too; Double spacing, strange colors.

    Hey where's the SIGNATURE TURN-ON OPTION?????????

    SIMON!!!!!! He does things on Sunday nights; chaos to havoc????

    Mustang

    Edited by - mustang on 10 June 2002 2:7:50

    M professor posted Mon, 10 Jun 2002 06:13:00 GMT(6/10/2002)

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    According to Simon the signature feature is off temporarily. Personally I think Simon's "new system" is a big hit! Options are good!

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