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Is JWN an unforgiving place

    usualusername posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:44:44 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    Over many years I have looked at JWN. In fact barely a day goes by without my fix.

    It is a site of contradictions.

    Sometimes it has a level of unforgiving that scares me. Yet most of the time I realise that for all its faults it has actually saved many lives.

    How would you describe the tone of JWN?

    UUN

    Seraphim23 posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:07:32 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    The tone to me feels hostile.

    Watkins posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:11:01 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    The 'tone' of JWN is as varied as the people who post here. An internet forum isn't 'forgiving' or 'unforgiving' - people are. It's the people who've reached out to others in need, not the forum itself. So - kudos to the people of JWN! A nice mix of diverse personalities and abilities, imo.

    Watkins

    M keyser soze posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:17:27 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    I can't speak for JWN as whole, but I have zero tolerance for anyone who doesn't agree with me.

    Hortensia posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:21:06 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    Hostile? No. Lively? Yes. Haven't you noticed, too, that when someone asks for support it is generously given? Lots of genuine compassion here, not such a bad place.

    DeWandelaar posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:23:37 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    The people on this site are mostly honest and honesty is not always what you want to hear.

    I like the site for the fact that it offers people some support... maybe even friends.

    M sir82 posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:24:21 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    Some people seem to confuse "please provide evidence for your assertions" with "hostility".

    cofty posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:47:26 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    Like Hortensia said, people who need support, sympathy or advice get lots of it.

    This_suit_doesnt_fit posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:57:11 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    JWN is a place of non-submission. A person demanding submission of the posters is always offended.

    Religion is about submission. A follower must submit to the ideas of the leaders. Anyone who doesnt submit is "bad".

    Members are tired of being controlled and stand up for themselves and common sense. The controllers hate that.

    It appears unforgiving to a controller when no one validates their delusions or hold their beliefs to the light of rationality.

    tornapart posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:58:05 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    Being in a religion where everyone thinks the same, acts the same, dresses the same, behaves the same.... it is refreshing to come to a place where everyone disagrees, fights it out, argues and disrespects each other's beliefs.

    Sometimes I come on here and see all the arguements between believers and non believers and think 'Oh no... not again'... groooooan. I feel frustrated and go off and read all the threads that have nothing to do with it. Yet at the end of the day, I'm glad about it because we are all finding our own identity, finding our freedom, freedom of mind, freedom of spirit and that's priceless.

    I'm a believer but have actually have become rather fond of many of the atheists on board... As was said on another thread about the differences between men and women 'Vive la différence!'

    Brother Mike posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:03:12 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    This forum is just ridiculous, no dis respect.

    This_suit_doesnt_fit posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:08:45 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    This forum is just ridiculous, no dis respect.

    Then go away.

    Brother Mike posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:10:19 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    That's what I'm talking about, hostile. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (Read the one above this)

    cofty posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:15:12 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    Please explain Bro Mike.

    minimus posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:18:24 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    JWD/JWN has gone thru many growing pains. When I first got here, it was a tough place to interact in. If you didn't side with the majority, you were verbally beaten up. Many of the so-called elite posters were here and as time went on, the board evolved. We always had a variety of types of personalities. Some people were pretty tolerant and others, not so much so. The site has been inconsistent at times. There could be a general olive branch offered to those not seeing eye to eye only to have any dissension within the ranks harshly dealt with in no time at all.

    Simon runs this place at exclusively, his own discretion and perspective. If you tend to disagree with him, you will be dealt with. Of course, as we all say, it IS his board and he can do anything he wishes. If you don't like it, you can simply leave. It is what it is.

    Basically, the place is similar to what it used to be except most of the dissenters have been quieted or have left for one reason or another.

    Overall, it's still the best exjw place on the internet. Nothing is perfect and the posters here make JWN what it is, for good/and/or for bad.

    fulltimestudent posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:22:09 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    No site on the internet, no place in real life, can ever be perfect for us, unless we are the only person there.

    minimus posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:24:14 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    Hey, at least it's generally not boring.

    problemaddict posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:25:58 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    JWN is all things to all people. Alot of help is here. Most things have already been researched ad nauseum. Lets face it, its alot of work and soul torchure keeping up with this mess of a religion.

    redvip2000 posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:35:00 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    I find this website to be full of genuine people who are for the most part empathetic. I think the last thing we need is to have the same mindset that we find in a JW congregation, where people supress their true thoughts in order to force uniformity.

    Uniformity and conformity need not apply! Challenging ideas and open free discussion is the way minds and people evolve.

    Stand for Pure Worship posted Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:46:12 GMT(11/19/2013)

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    James 3:13-18

    13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let them show it by their good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. 14 But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. 15 Such “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic. 16 For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice. 17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18 Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.

    It goes without saying that verses 17-18 don't apply to JWN.

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