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JW's supposedly at Mall shooting

    zound posted Tue, 01 Oct 2013 02:56:24 GMT(10/1/2013)

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    The following is from annointedjw - a website I dislike the more I read from them. This reeks of total BS to me, but interested if anyone else has heard about this.

    The part that gets me, is how the hell they could know what these JW's did or said if they were killed - who witnessed this? And the other thing that makes me rage is that these guys are martyring these JW's to further their own 'ministry' - very watchtower-like.

    Opinions?

    Out of the terrorist attack at a shopping mall in Nairobi, Kenya, on September 21, 2013, comes report of a couple who were shot down because they were Christians. This couple were Jehovah’s Witnesses who had recently found the plain and open teachings of Jesus and had made public declaration of their sonship with God.

    According to the report we received, the attackers were going from shop to shop shooting non-Muslims. When a Muslim identified him or herself, they were allowed to go. As a result, some Christians represented themselves as Muslims in order to be spared. This worked for some, but not all. When the attackers reached these two ‘sons of the kingdom,’ they asked if they were Muslims. The couple stood holding hands as they proclaimed their Christ-like devotion and consecration to the Father. They responded: “We are sons of the kingdom of the heaven and our salvation lies with Jesus Christ.” Some more words were exchanged, and their last words were “Do what you will with our bodies,” and with that, they were shot.

    We are deeply saddened that mankind continues their primitive battles over religious superiority. We are likewise saddened that the lives of this couple were cut short. But we are inspired by their courage and godly devotion. They knew without question that standing up for Jesus and the kingdom of the heavens under those circumstances would result in their death. Yet, when their personal test arrived, they proved faithful even as far as death and now the crown of life awaits them. (Revelation 2:10) Their example of courage should be remembered and imitated by all sons of God regardless of what name appears on their church marquee.

    Though this couple had only recently accepted their sonship, by making this public declaration and defense of their faith at this precipice moment, they stored up more ‘treasures in heaven’ than many will accumulate in a lifetime. (Matthew 6:20-21)

    This experience should give perspective to our brothers among Jehovah’s Witnesses who are experiencing trialsome conditions as a result of the public declaration of their hope in their local Kingdom Halls, as we describe in the articles Defending Our Living Hope and Publicly Declaring Our Hope. The trials these brothers and sisters are facing do not compare to the trial this couple faced. The stubborn and disobedient children who masquerade as Christian overseers can only damage or decrease your popularity. They cannot harm your ‘soul.’ (Matthew 10:28) For, after they have done their dastardly deeds, you will be free to carry on the ministry and live your lives on as faith sons of God on earth.

    We know that as our world continues its sifting and refining, we may hear many more reports of violence and bloodshed. Mankind is agitated and, whether knowingly or unknowingly, is seeking ‘the freedom of the children of God’ (Romans 8:18-21), especially in the third world and war torn countries. There will be difficult struggles for many, but the Father and Christ will prevail and mankind will know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men. (Daniel 4:25)

    In the meantime, while there is a measure of peace in our local communities, let us continue proving ourselves faithful in our daily activities – doing the best and right thing under the circumstances – so that when we are faced with greater challenges, we can come out victorious. Remember:

    “The person faithful in what is least is faithful also in much, and the person unrighteous in what is least is unrighteous also in much.” – Luke 16:10


    Let us, by our small and regular acts of courage, build a strong foundation of real, personal and fire-tested faith. When trials come, let us keep our perspective. Few challenges are matters of life or death as was this couple’s. Most challenges are inconveniences and disruptions that can be endured with joy, knowing they all work out endurance. (James 1:2-4) But should we come under such weighty and life-threatening trials, we pray that your and our faith will honor the Father and Christ Jesus as these two courageous sons of God.

    May the Father’s joy and excelling peace be with the worldwide Jesus brotherhood.

    Faithful Witness posted Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:00:48 GMT(10/1/2013)

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    This reads like dangerous propaganda to me.

    That website is bizarre, but it serves a valuable purpose. It is getting JW's to read things online, beyond the blessed website.

    DeWandelaar posted Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:08:05 GMT(10/1/2013)

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    Well... what always strikes me is this: they add in a conversation between the shooters and the two christians... now use your brains and think: HOW THE HELL DO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY SAID?! Did the JW's make a note or a record before they got shot? Was there someone else who was making notes? Did the terrorists themselves write it down or confessed it to the media?

    Probably every answer to these questions is "No"

    InquiryMan posted Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:31:02 GMT(10/1/2013)

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    And no JW would use this kind of speech. It does not sound witnesslike.

    DS211 posted Thu, 03 Oct 2013 17:03:26 GMT(10/3/2013)

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    Yea i also posted this and i admit i was a little gullible in believing it (WT de-doctrination still in process). I might email thrm and ask

    OUTLAW posted Thu, 03 Oct 2013 17:21:18 GMT(10/3/2013)

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    Ya right!..

    People are being shot for not being able to say a Muslim Prayer..

    Theres Blood and Brains splattered all over the floor..But!!..

    JW`s step up and..

    Go all Shakespear on the Terrorists..

    “We are sons of the kingdom of the heaven and our salvation lies with Jesus Christ.”

    “Do what you will with our bodies,”

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    zound posted Mon, 04 Nov 2013 22:25:46 GMT(11/4/2013)

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    This is on the JW.org 'newsroom'. I'm not sure of the validity of the initial report and if those claimed to be killed were baptised or ex jws. But the org certainly haven't mentioned them - if they WERE jws but not in good standing because of these other "Christ sonship" ideas thats pretty harsh not to be acknowledged by the org isn't it.

    Mall Shooting in Kenya

    OCTOBER 14, 2013 | KENYA

    On Saturday, September 21, 2013, gunmen raided a mall in Nairobi, Kenya, killing at least 67 people and injuring at least 175. The branch office of Jehovah’s Witnesses reports that a number of Jehovah’s Witnesses were in the mall at the time of the attack, but they were able to escape without injury. Josphat Makori, a spokesman for Jehovah’s Witnesses in Kenya, states: “This attack has saddened all in our community. We express our condolences to those mourning after this tragedy. We are working especially hard to provide spiritual comfort and practical assistance to our neighbors during this difficult time.”

    NVR2L8 posted Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:30:57 GMT(11/4/2013)

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    Since when JW claim sonship with God or to be sons of the kingdom unless they have the heavenly calling? Especially when the WT says some recently "chosen ones" are emotionally troubled?

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