A Surprizing Op-Ed By Putin !


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    metatron posted Thu, 12 Sep 2013 01:46:02 GMT(9/12/2013)

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    The world has turned upside down. The leader of Russia recommends peace, good sense and Godly behavior while US leaders preach an obsession with war, amateurishly fumble diplomacy, and embarrass their nation in front of the world.

    This is one of the greatest WTF moments of my life! And I thought 2013 would be a crazy year!


    F BizzyBee posted Thu, 12 Sep 2013 02:46:33 GMT(9/12/2013)

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    It is an amazing development - on top of the other amazing development in the Syria situation this week - the possibility of Russia negotiating the Syrian relinquishment of chemical weapons - thus averting a war. If that is a fumble or an embarrassment - let's have more of them!

    Berengaria posted Thu, 12 Sep 2013 02:54:36 GMT(9/12/2013)

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    LOL you right wingers are a true hoot!

    Hortensia posted Thu, 12 Sep 2013 03:11:29 GMT(9/12/2013)

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    on the other hand, he's thinking about taking children away from gay couples and putting anyone who mentions homosexuality in prison.

    M Wasanelder Once posted Thu, 12 Sep 2013 04:18:40 GMT(9/12/2013)

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    Well Hortensia, ask yourself what comrade Jesus would do?

    scotoma posted Thu, 12 Sep 2013 05:16:11 GMT(9/12/2013)

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    The Watchtower has been a very useful tool to discover a more coherent view of Bible prophecy.

    This doesn't mean they have it right! But, they seem to be uncannily wrong on everything they try to interpret. To get it right just make sure you look in a different direction from the Watchtower.

    Putin's behavior fits the role of the King of Fierce Countenance at Daniel 8:23

    I like the NIV reading of Daniel 8:23-25

    23 “In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a fierce-looking
    king, a master of intrigue, will arise. 24 He will become very strong, but not by his own power.
    He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy those
    who are mighty, the holy people. 25 He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself
    superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of
    princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

    First of all the Watchtower fails to understand that when the Bible refers to "a king" it is not referring to a particular nation but an actual person. So they jump to the conclusion that the stern faced King is the United States/Great Brittain.

    Well there are three identifiers of this king in vs 23:

    1. fierce-looking (some translations say "stern faced"

    2. master of intrigue (some translations say "master of deception"

    3. becomes powerful but not by his own power

    Putin is known to be stern faced. Check out 50 pictures of Putin looking like a bad ass http://www.funnyordie.com/slideshows/7df05c1f10/pictures-of-vladimir-putin-looking-like-a-complete-badass

    Master of deception? How about being the head of the FSB (successor to KGB) Master Spy.

    The third is kind of a riddle. He became powerful in spite of not having risen through elected channels. He was appointed by Yeltsin only later to have been elected.

    Read the Book:

    The Man Without a Face
    The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin
    Masha Gessen

    "The Man Without a Face is the chilling account of how a low- level, small-minded KGB
    operative ascended to the Russian presidency and, in an astonishingly short time, destroyed years
    of progress and made his country once more a threat to her own people and to the world.

    Handpicked as a successor by the "family" surrounding an ailing and increasingly unpopular
    Boris Yeltsin, Vladimir Putin seemed like a perfect choice for the oligarchy to shape according to
    its own designs. Suddenly the boy who had stood in the shadows, dreaming of ruling the world,
    was a public figure, and his popularity soared. Russia and an infatuated West were determined to
    see the progressive leader of their dreams, even as he seized control of media, sent political rivals
    and critics into exile or to the grave, and smashed the country's fragile electoral system,
    concentrating power in the hands of his cronies." Penguin Book Review

    What remains to be seen is the remaining verses of that prophecy. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy those who are mighty, the holy people. 25 He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself
    superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of
    princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

    M Pistoff posted Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:57:00 GMT(9/12/2013)

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    Putin, of course, does not believe in peace any more than he believes in the UN.

    He blocks every resolution in the UN that would condemn Syria for killing civilians. Syria is an ally of Russia; it's that simple.

    He is lobbying for his ally, and paints it as advocating for peace.

    Putin says that the US should not strike Syria for killing civilians; his words are of course worthliess in view of the Russian treatment of Georgia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Georgia_war

    So it is hard to take Putin, the macho shirtless ex-spy, seriously.

    Putin is a KGB thug; research how many journalists have been killed in Russia during his presidencies and his time as prime minister.

    scotoma posted Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:24:49 GMT(9/12/2013)

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    Not to start a conspiracy theory - but maybe Putin engineered the Sarin attack to test the will of Obama. It has been suggested that Berezovfsky hatched the plan to blow up poor residential apartment buildings in Moscow to make it look like the Chechens did it. Those bombings were the pretext for Putin's attack on Chechnya which elevated him in the eyes of the public solidifying his chance of winning the elections that took place that spring.

    cofty posted Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:40:27 GMT(9/12/2013)

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    Russia is an autocracy and along with China is seeking to increase it's influence among other autocracies. Assad could not be seen to cower to pressure from a liberal democracy but Putin has offered him a way to save face. Putin is hypocritically assuming a moral high ground.

    There are reports that there have been numerous low level chemical attacks by Assad during the war so far. It is not impossible that the recent major attack was simply a cock-up.

    Obama should not apologise for standing up to Assad.

    nonjwspouse posted Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:07:14 GMT(9/12/2013)

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    Have you seen the video of the syrian rebal cutting out and eating the heart of the Assad army officer? I must say, I am not quite sure what to think. The whole this is extremely mesed up.

    M slimboyfat posted Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:13:16 GMT(9/12/2013)

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    Ever since before Hiroshima, Russia have always had a less bellicose approach to international affairs than the United States.

    M Pistoff posted Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:15:29 GMT(9/12/2013)

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    The US has no friends in Syria; the rebels will sooner or later be taken over by radicals. Assad is the brutal dictator who kept the peace, like so many others before him.


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