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2012 annual meeting notes

    lostinthought posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:28:14 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    Sorry for the wait guys...

    part one

    Moorse had the opening comments talked about historic annual meetings.

    then came a video update on international buildings in other countries. They showed some hall that were built in poor countries, but the cong has to contribute to the cause.

    there was a video on the international conventions held this year, then came the interviews with some couples that went to branch school currently wives are now allowed to attend the school also

    then came the part about the special public witnessing project that has been featured on jw.org streets in major cities now have carts with books and mags staffed with pioneers doing 12 hour shifts. Currently the program is in la, NYC and Chicago it will soon be offered to branches world wide. The co in charge of this project was very emotional during the part and was tearing up, others around me were crying...all I was thinking was cult! Reminded me of Steve Hassan when he spent hours selling roses on city streets.

    then Caleb made a return! They were gushing about the great movie. Because we have to "fight for the hearts of our young ones" Caleb will be on jw.org monthly for 1min videos or songs starting jan. also showed one of the new videos, Caleb will not steal lollipops cause he wants to be jabs friend.

    First part was boring...then the new light came.

    Jackson, loch, herd, lett (this man looks crazy), pierce all give a symposium i won't bore you with details since most already know about this but to sum up: Based on Matthew 24:45-47

    1. When does the slave appear? Last days, during the presence of The Lord

    2. Who is the faithful slave? Small group of anointed brothers during Christ presents at headquarters who make and dispence spirtual food(governing body)

    3. Slave appointed in 1919 after the cleasing of the temple, russel was not a member of the faithful slave the slave was only taking shape in his day

    4. Domestics - anointed and other sheep, those who are fed

    5. All anointed to sit on thrones when ruling in hevean

    then came the year text Josh 1:9 be courageous and strong jah is with you, next year the annual meeting will be streamed to assembly halls

    hope these make sense, sorry I posted so late

    elderelite posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:34:56 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    TY for sharing lost in thought! Taking one for the team is always appreciated.

    Theocratic Sedition posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:38:32 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    Armageddon wont be next year if the pricks are already planning on streaming the next annual. Hopefully Michigam is playing that night too. Fred Franz creativity/imagination/delusion is really evident now that he's dead and we're stuck with the pretenders btw.

    Theocratic Sedition posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:40:01 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    ditto to what EE said, thanks lostinthought!

    DarioKehl posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:42:27 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    So to clarify, Jesus Christ is the mediator for only these 8 men. Is that right? Am I making a mistake anywhere? That's the official doctrine now? If that's the way they're going to go with this, it's time to start calling them out! ...WOW.

    00DAD posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:46:52 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    ... russel was not a member of the faithful slave ...

    WTF?!? He WAS the F&DS at the time! (Or at least that was the "Present Truth" at the time ... lol).

    Lostinthough: Reminded me of Steve Hassan when he spent hours selling roses on city streets.

    Exactly. Like the Hare Krishna in suits and without the cool music.

    MC RubberMallet posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:47:17 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    Thanks lostinthought!

    cult classic posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 01:00:21 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    So Russell is not a member of the Faithful Slave class?

    Now they are throwing the founder of Watchtower under the bus?

    Nice !

    breakfast of champions posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 01:02:44 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    Thanks for the notes!

    M jwfacts posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 01:04:01 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    2. Who is the faithful slave? Small group of anointed brothers during Christ presents at headquarters who make and dispence spirtual food(governing body)

    3. Slave appointed in 1919 after the cleasing of the temple, russel was not a member of the faithful slave the slave was only taking shape in his day

    4. Domestics - anointed and other sheep, those who are fed

    That is a dramatic change, even if they have been working towards it for several years. Finally they admit only the GB have any power and the rest of the anointed and other sheep are similarly irrelevant whilst on earth.

    DarloKehl So to clarify, Jesus Christ is the mediator for only these 8 men. Is that right? Am I making a mistake anywhere? That's the official doctrine now?

    I dont think that is what the change leads to. The Watchtower says that Jesus is only mediator for those that are of the new covenant, not only the Slave. All the anointed are still considered of the new covenant, so still have Jesus are their mediator. So there are still a few thousand people out of the 7 billion on earth that it applies to.

    baltar447 posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 01:04:15 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    Will this phase any dubs though? really?

    00DAD posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 01:16:57 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    Baltar: Will this phase any dubs though? really?

    Nah, not really. In a matter of mere weeks they'll all be saying, "Well that's what I believed all along!" ... blink, blink ...

    We're probably all more excited about it here in aposta-land than any JWs in the local KHs.

    This matters to us because we recognize it as yet one more convincing piece of evidence that WT "Theology" is a completely incomprehensible, incoherent, inconsistent, capriciously ever-changing mess of convoluted doctrines and doublespeak reinventing meanings for everyday words whenever necessary.

    For them it's just more "Nu-Lite TM "

    Lather, rinse, repeat.

    Leolaia posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:19:50 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    Slave appointed in 1919 after the cleasing of the temple, russel was not a member of the faithful slave the slave was only taking shape in his day

    And between 1919 and 2012, the slave didn't quite understand who the slave in fact was?

    Satanus posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:26:19 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    They sit on thrones now, already! And this noolite makes that more clear.

    S

    Leolaia posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:27:50 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    Master: "I need to go away for a month on business. Household slaves, you are responsible for your meals, k?" Slaves: Gotcha, master. (Next day). A certain ambitious slave: "Yo, fellow slaves, getcha supper! I've provided you all a feast!" Slaves: I thought we were responsible for our own meals?" Ambitious slave: "Heck, no. Master privately told me that all meals must come from a single source. And since I'm in charge of the kitchen, that means I'm the one in charge." (Next day). Ambitious slave: "Yo, slaves, dinner time. Oh btw, thank you for doing your part in getting groceries for supper." Other slaves: "Oh? We didn't do anything....We were supposed to do the shopping? I'm sorry, master didn't tell us to help you in that." Ambitious slave: "We're all slaves. When master commanded the slaves to shop and prepare the food, he meant all of us. It's just that I take sole credit for all the work all the slaves do around here." (The next day) Other slaves: "Hi, fellow slave, we saw that we were out of eggs and milk and we know what's on the menu tonight, so we went out and got groceries to help you out." Ambitious slave: "What! That job was given to me only! How dare you be presumptuous in running ahead of me!" (Four hours later) Slave: "Dinner's ready! Dig in! Oh and thank you dear slaves for doing your part in helping get dinner ready as master commanded." Other slaves: *grown* Ambitious slave: "BTW, I was thinking about what master told me a month ago before he left, and now I'm totally convinced that master wanted us all to eat vegan. So most of the food that was in the fridge, I had to throw out. Including the eggs and milk you bought. It's outside rotting. And if any of your are harboring any beef jerkey or anything animal-produced at all, you must throw it out immediately!" A slave in the back of the room: "I don't understand...master always gave us delicious steak dinners and turkey for Thanksgiving....what makes you so sure that's master wants?" Ambitious slave: "What? How dare you question me! You are running ahead of the slave!" Lowly slave: "The slave? But you said before we're all slaves, I'm not running ahead of myself. I don't want to eat vegan." Slave: "You know what, I just realized that what master meant is that I'm the only slave of his around here. You all are my domestics. Now get to work."

    EndofMysteries posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:33:43 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    so if as you say, the faithful slave appears in the last days or the end, then there never was a faithful slave all the way till 1919, always an organization or someone dispensing the food got thrown right out the toilet lol.

    OUTLAW posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:34:00 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    LOL!!@Leo!!..

    ........................... ...OUTLAW

    breakfast of champions posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:39:10 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    I guess this means that Sir Isaac Newton wasn't part of the faithful slave!

    M Billy the Ex-Bethelite posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:40:11 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    So, the faithful slave in 1919 was just Rutherford? Or are they going to rewrite their history to explain that there was a GB formed in 1919?

    And, who is the evil slave?

    King Solomon posted Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:47:24 GMT(10/7/2012)

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    "the slave was only taking shape"?

    Why am I thinking of something out of Terminator, where shape-shifting was going on?

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