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Disfellowshipped!

    Las Malvinas son Argentinas posted Fri, 11 May 2012 18:18:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    So here I am! Libertad! Though my story is a bit more complicated than that. I live in Argentina. I was disfellowshipped almost a month ago. No more Kingdom Halls and turning in time, but more unfortunately, this leaves me with almost no family left! Well, you all must know how that goes. I’m not completely helpless though. My father lives with his second wife in the USA with their children – my three little brothers and sisters! My brother lives in London.

    They left the religion long ago, but my mother, two older brothers, their families, and my grandparents are all still going to the Hall. But within Argentina, all I really have are friends. So I have this plan. It will sound stupid to some, but to me it’s worth a try. I really don’t want to stay disfellowshipped. I can do without the religion, but I do not desire a complete disconnect from most of my family. I spoke to the elders shortly before they disfellowshipped me, and they told me I must come to meetings and sit in the back, and in six months they can review my situation. Also I need to move out from where I live with my wild roommates and find my own place. And so today I made arrangements to rent a room from an older acquaintance. It’s not far from the Kingdom Hall, and I can make appearances there.

    In little over a year’s time, I will go abroad to study. No one else knows this, but I do. I hope to get re-instated to the congregation, and then will go. That way my mother cannot check up on me and my service, but will still believe that I am in the Witnesses. I can then come back to visit and be a part of the family. Even if I decide to come back, I can always become inactive. That way they can still speak to me at least.

    What a crazy religion! But you all know that.

    Emilie

    Las Malvinas son Argentinas!

    F troubled mind posted Fri, 11 May 2012 18:26:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    Well good luck with your plan dear, it does sound solid . Isn't it sad you have to go through such craziness just to have your 'loved' ones accept you again ! How totally bogus it all really is when, like you siad, you can just go off and do what you want w/o their knowledge ,but as long as the DF title is gone your good to them again .

    CRAZY STUPID RELIGION F'n up peoples lives for over 100 yrs now ! Awesome

    botchtowersociety posted Fri, 11 May 2012 18:29:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    That sounds like a good plan. Moving away worked for me as well. I am free and no JW chains.

    Sin cadenas sobre los pies me puse andar

    hace tiempo quise encontrar el camino.

    Y he perdido, he ganado, y he sabido defenderme bien.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GobE86DFIKw

    Las Malvinas son Argentinas!

    Deseo lo mejor para vos, pero las Malvinas son Britanicas.

    Las Malvinas son Argentinas posted Fri, 11 May 2012 18:46:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    Ay! I somehow knew that would cause discussion. Yes, I have heard the British point of view. 179 years of occupation does not make it any more right than if Argentina took some remote Scottish islands 179 years ago and called them an Argentine territory ever since. But we can disagree on this! I do not disfellowship you! My father was a veteran of the Malvinas War and the cause is close to my heart.

    Diest posted Fri, 11 May 2012 18:57:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    First off welcome. I think a reinstatement followed by a fade is a good plan.

    We should start another thread on your nick.

    You cant claim something you barely owned. Not to mention I dont think there are many Argentines living on the Malkland islands. Self determination for the people that live there should be the deciding factor.

    When I hear Argentines talk about the Falvinas they sound just like the Bolivians who complain about Chile taking their port city 100 years ago. There is a bit of...you lost, you lost along time ago...why waste the energy.

    I know you wont agree but those are my dos centavos.

    M wha happened? posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:06:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    You cant claim something you barely owned. Not to mention I dont think there are many Argentines living on the Malkland islands. Self determination for the people that live there should be the deciding factor.

    I don't agree with the war over this sliver of land, but this argument is just lame. You occupy an area, force the locals out, and then take a vote. DUH!

    Las Malvinas son Argentinas posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:12:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    Ay! Let’s move the Malvinas discussion please! But I will finally say this: Using the same argument, then China is the rightful owner of Tibet since the Chinese are now the majority and if a vote took place, Tibet would elect to remain with China! I think the Malvinas issue is an important one, and not something to be dismissed with a “we won, you lost” mentality. But let’s direct any further comments on this to another thread. I just wanted to greet everyone and tell a little about myself.

    M wha happened? posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:21:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    let's do that. In fact someone already opened up an old thread on this.

    So tell us more

    sd-7 posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:26:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    Welcome. I prefer the term "expelled" personally. So...as Obi-Wan Kenobi once said, "What brings you out this far?"

    Or basically, what the guy with the Wonder Bread hat said...

    --sd-7

    M Shawn10538 posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:30:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    Unfortunately even if you do get reinstated, your relationships with JWs are never going to improve from here on out. If you have it in you to get reinstated, great for you. It would be excruciating for me. I never could stand going to those meetings. I tried a handful of times but it was such torture I didn't care whether my family ever talked to me again or not. I just couldn't support that evil organization, not even for appearances.

    M wha happened? posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:35:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    yea I have to hand it to the people who have to get reinstated and drift afterwards. I couldn't stomach the meetings, and then having to request that these inbred, half-witted, pedophiles, allow me back in their sandbox

    M Shawn10538 posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:38:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    I see the process of getting reinstated as having sex with the Devil. The Devil says, "Hey just have sex with me for six months and I will let your family talk to you again. C'mon. It's just a little lying, cheating and whoring. Don't worry it'll be over in six months!"

    Ummmm. I say no.

    M Shawn10538 posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:39:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    ditto wha happened!

    Ding posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:42:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    Unfortunately, some gung ho JWs even shun inactive JWs.

    I hope that doesn't happen to you.

    theBGB posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:45:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    Well, sounds like she's not doing it for people she's doing it for her close immediate family, who generally are more forgiving to those reinstated. I think it's a pretty solid plan, stick around just long enough that you get your family back, then get the hell out of there and on to a real life.

    Welcome, LMSA

    cofty posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:50:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    Welcome to the board from a Brit. I hope your plans work out for you and the reinstatement process isn't too onerous.

    Might want to talk to you about the Falklands on another thread ;)

    M wha happened? posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:52:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    Ding, the WT gives direction to shun active ones

    Las Malvinas son Argentinas posted Fri, 11 May 2012 19:59:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    Well, they disfellowshipped me because I could no longer hide the fact that I will be a mother soon. I am not married and don’t even have a boyfriend, so a lot of gossip was circulated that I am a bad woman. I was honest with them that I truly regret how things happened, but the gossip was already so bad that they felt that they had to do something. No matter how much I pleaded with them about how difficult this would make my life, it did not convince them. My mother then told me that she would not contact or speak to me, which hurt me the most. It hurt her too, but she did not need to take that firm of a decision. My brothers (whom I am very close to) took a more relaxed viewpoint and encouraged me to come back.

    So I will go to Georgetown in Washington next year to start on graduate studies. My father and his family live nearby in Virginia, and they have agreed to help me. But I have not seen my father for many years. He left 20 years ago to the USA to work. He was a JW for a couple years, but couldn’t take it anymore, so he understands me. So I wish to clear things up here before I leave. Family is important to me and it’s a shame that these things can’t be better. I do not look forward to attending meetings again in shame, but I will try. It fills me with tears to think about these things, but it is a fact of life with having a JW family. I want no more to do with them after all of this.

    Emilie

    cyberjesus posted Fri, 11 May 2012 20:09:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    Tell them that you thought it through and that you are really really really sorry you didnt tell em earlier... ..... you want a second opinion.

    tell em you are not really pregnant its just you been really hungry lately..

    lie lie lie lie lie... i guess with a baby that would be difficult...

    tell em you adopted him?

    oh so much trouble....

    good luck.

    nancy drew posted Fri, 11 May 2012 20:17:00 GMT(5/11/2012)

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    For me the real question is what is truth and if an organization is not truth you shouldn't support it if you do you just give it power to hurt others. Now if you really still believe it all then go back and play the game.

    Everyone has to make their own decisions

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