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Bullet list of major (recent) changes
RN
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Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:56:00 GMT
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AlabamaPost 99 of 110 Since 3/24/2001 |
It is with great interest that I recently read Ceders article on the decline of the WTS. His article along with many of the comments really drives home just how many major changes there have been in a fairly short peroid of time. Somewhere in the recent past I could swear that someone had posted a bullet list of major changes with the corresponding year. When I saw this (or something like it) my first thought was that this simple list made it all the more shocking; and since I have searched and cannot find anything like it. So I dug around and started one of my own, please feel free to add/corrects events. It may prove useful to demonstrate just how UN-progressive the WTS has become! * 1980's: Simplification program * 1990: Voluntary donation arrangement for literature * 1995/6: Generation change * 2005: first reduction in magazine production; monthy Awake/WT & monthy in-house WT * 2006: Bethel layoffs begin * 2007: change to 30 minute Public Talk * 2008: Overlapping generations * 2009: Elimination of Book Study as separate meeting * 2010: WTS begins closing/merging Branch facilities and selling branch properties * 2011: Credit card machines at assembly halls and conventions * 2012: begin selling Brooklyn properties * 2013: reduction in size of magazines Disturbing, but in a good way! --RN |
wokeup
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:11:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 88 of 96 Since 8/24/2001 |
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:36:00 GMT
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Post 6188 of 6726 Since 4/7/2001 |
Loss of subscriptions Loss of food service at assemblies Selling off printing presses and equipment huge loss of congregations in Japan Paperback books to save pennies per book (calculated in pressroom)
metatron
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:40:00 GMT
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Post 695 of 1180 Since 10/23/2010 |
Recent Possibly 2010: Change from PO to COBE Recent Possibly 2011: Drop to 30 hours in required auxiliary hours Recent Possibly 2011: Drop the inactive publisher assist program |
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 00:09:00 GMT
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Post 113 of 208 Since 1/23/2012 |
1999 : Regular pioneer hours decrease from 90 avg/month to 70 2011: Gilead stops accepting missionaries |
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 00:47:00 GMT
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Post 2554 of 5851 Since 7/29/2011 |
The Overlapping Generation change came in 2010, not 2008: In the Watchtower 2010 April 15 issue, the generation doctrine was changed in an attempt to reintroduce urgency. |
stillajwexelder
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 00:56:00 GMT
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![]() KansasPost 19022 of 19107 Since 2/24/2003 |
1992 Nethinim to the Governing Body |
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 01:42:00 GMT
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Post 4 of 236 Since 4/17/2012 |
When you put all that reduction together in one place, it actually undermines the Watchtower Society's claim of being God's spokesmen: If they were truly chosen of God, why all this dwindling over the years?
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 01:44:00 GMT
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Post 5 of 236 Since 4/17/2012 |
....of course, I don't believe their claim, I'm just wondering what THEIR idea is to quell such thoughts.... |
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 01:47:00 GMT
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Post 1032 of 1449 Since 5/23/2010 |
What year was it in the 90's that the Awake magazines masthead was changed to eliminate the year 1914 ? |
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 02:10:00 GMT
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Post 576 of 836 Since 5/27/2011 |
If they were truly chosen of God, why all this dwindling over the years? You're not looking at it right. Here's how it works. When there is a growth in numbers, an increase in pioneers and publishers, more KHs being built, more printing presses being bought, and more literature being printed for distrubution to the public, and expansion everywhere, what does it prove? That Jehovah is moving his organization forward! But when there is a decline in rate of growth, KHs being sold and congregations merged, Branch property being sold off, a reduction in printed literature, and cost cutting moves being made everywhere, what does it prove? That Jehovah is moving his organization forward! Does it make sense now? |
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:25:00 GMT
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Post 147 of 164 Since 2/11/2010 |
They changed the Awake magazine starting with the issue released after the November 1995 generation change. |
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:36:00 GMT
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Post 23 of 23 Since 7/2/2009 |
Awesome list. I faded in 2006 ... I missed so much new light ... |
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:52:00 GMT
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Post 24 of 89 Since 7/19/2011 |
Actually the "overlapping generations" idea did first surface in 2008.
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blondie
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:58:00 GMT
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![]() Post 34008 of 36383 Since 5/28/2001 |
If you have the most recent WT-CD, look in the index under "refinements" "clarifications" "adjustments" |
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:06:00 GMT
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Post 25 of 89 Since 7/19/2011 |
The list of blood products that they will accept has been changed quite a number of times. |
slimboyfat
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:18:00 GMT
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![]() Afghanistan Post 5541 of 7506 Since 11/24/2004 |
Has anyone got a reference to where the recent downgrade in Gilead was announced/discussed. This development totally passed me by. |
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:23:00 GMT
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Post 26 of 89 Since 7/19/2011 |
Before 2007, the wt taught that the 144,000 had been "sealed" in 1935. If this had been the case, then the number of anointed left on earth would have continually declined. But that hasn't happened. So:
(This change was clearly a reaction by the wtbts to the highly inconvenient increase in the number of partakers.) A further "refinement in understanding" came in 2011.
and, a related refinement from the same article:
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:26:00 GMT
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Post 577 of 1525 Since 12/17/2011 |
Shutting down Branch offices? |
james_woods
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Re: Bullet list of major (recent) changes
posted Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:29:00 GMT
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![]() TexasPost 9515 of 15810 Since 10/26/2005 |
Could someone remind us again what the "generation change" of teaching was in 1995/1996, and how it was different than the "overlapping" generation change of 2008-2011? |


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