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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:32:00 GMT
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Post 1 of 245 Since 1/23/2012 |
i'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave. i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though |
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:34:00 GMT
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![]() MississippiPost 13757 of 15000 Since 6/16/2008 |
Welcome!
The book really doesn't get good until after page 100. Fasten your seat belt.
(The first 100 pages reads like an Awake! magazine life story.) |
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:35:00 GMT
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Post 1141 of 2394 Since 11/24/2009 |
No looking back now. If you are only on page 90 get ready for the ride of your life! Its truly an amazing book, like seeing the man behind the curtain at the end of "Wizard of Oz" Welcome to the forum |
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:37:00 GMT
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Post 554 of 1371 Since 3/2/2011 |
Does Crisis of Conscience include the 2/3 majority GB vote? Or is that in Search of Cristian Freedom? |
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:41:00 GMT
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Post 91 of 1533 Since 12/17/2011 |
MsGrowingGirl20..Once you've read that and especially if you read In Search of Christian Freedom it's like opening Pandora's Box. You'll never see anything the same way again in the Organisation. For me it has been liberating, even though I have to stay for my family I can now think as a free person. I hope you find the same. It will make you feel very shaken though. |
Honesty
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:41:00 GMT
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![]() TennesseePost 8982 of 9192 Since 1/12/2005 |
Whatever you do, DO NOT TELL ANY JW WHAT YOU ARE READING.
You will be contacted by the elders and invited to a meeting.
You do know what happens after that, don't you? |
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:42:00 GMT
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Post 1142 of 2394 Since 11/24/2009 |
Pretty sure its CoC, the chapter on "alternative service" talks about the politics of getting a vote to a 2/3rds majority. They were about to overturn it in the 70's and someone flipped their vote, meaning thousands of young men would still have to go to prison instead of work in a hospital or somewhere else for the government.
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:44:00 GMT
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![]() OntarioPost 15708 of 17135 Since 11/22/2001 |
Welcome! great that your reading Rays's book... Now your mind will be taken back & you will be free to THINK!!!! Granny,Mouthy,Grace |
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:47:00 GMT
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![]() TexasPost 7433 of 15810 Since 10/26/2005 |
Does Crisis of Conscience include the 2/3 majority GB vote? Or is that in Search of Cristian Freedom? Crisis of Conscience, as I recall...Welcome, MsGrowingGirl20. |
darth frosty
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:47:00 GMT
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![]() MichiganPost 3508 of 4041 Since 11/28/2005 |
Interesting The book really doesn't get good until after page 100. Fasten your seat belt. (The first 100 pages reads like an Awake! magazine life story.)
I never got past the 1st 10-20 pages BECAUSE it reminded me of a GB life story (which it is) But I may jump to Page 100 and try to read it again. |
ldrnomo
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:51:00 GMT
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![]() WashingtonPost 1095 of 1460 Since 9/8/2007 |
It's going to continue to shock you as you keep reading but do not fret, things will only get better once you realized that you have been duped to think you had the truth. Just remember, "Do not put your trust in men" |
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:52:00 GMT
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Post 51 of 1514 Since 1/5/2012 |
Think thinkthinkthink... how exciting!!!! it will be devestating and liberating all a once!! They are abusing their Power!! L8r T8r |
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:53:00 GMT
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Post 838 of 2194 Since 5/11/2010 |
Welcome to the forum. |
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:58:00 GMT
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Post 2 of 245 Since 1/23/2012 |
wow....i'm trying to put everything together along with my watchtower library----things are sooo not adding up,nothing is mentioned in the library except the announcement that he's no longer a member....who'd have thunk that this is what i'd be doing after a long morning preaching....i'm so scared.... |
Gayle
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:59:00 GMT
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![]() ArizonaPost 3236 of 4112 Since 11/17/2006 |
It's so wonderful to see ones like you, young, willing to investigate, though even a reg. pio.. How did you learn of the book, did you get the book or did you download the "pdf?" Please go slow on your process, assimulating it. I assume you have JW family. Be careful as they may not be as ready as you seem to be. |
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:06:00 GMT
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Post 839 of 2194 Since 5/11/2010 |
yep take it SLOOOOW.... and keep your mouth shut! |
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:13:00 GMT
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Post 2061 of 2602 Since 4/25/2011 |
And it begins............. |
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:34:00 GMT
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Post 18 of 386 Since 12/23/2011 |
i'm trying to put everything together along with my watchtower library----things are sooo not adding up,nothing is mentioned in the library except the announcement that he's no longer a member....who'd have thunk that this is what i'd be doing after a long morning preaching.... I remember being exactly where you are now.... FYI - I am still a JW and attend meetings, just "inactive" now This was very tumultuous for me too. You'll find there is more corellating information in the Proclaimer's book than anywhere else - it's all over the place though so you need to jump around a lot. I think this was intentional, if they had put all the Russell, Rutherford, Franz dilemas in chronological order it would trigger a lot more JW's to start thinking about the reality of the WTS's past. Just keep going, you will find that CofC is a completely honest publication, in fact you will develop a real respect for Ray Franz and what he did. Many of us as JW's were trained to hate Ray Franz and feel disgust toward what he did. This is completely undeserved. I was fortunate enought to correspond with Ray Franz before he died and thank him for all he has done in helping so many people. If you like I can share some of this with you privately in a PM I wish you all the best on your journey. Trust me, so many things are going to make perfect sense real fast - all those unanswered questions in the back of your mind will instantly vanish - becuase they will ALL be answered. It's amazing woj |
jookbeard
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:37:00 GMT
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England, SurreyPost 3072 of 3923 Since 1/28/2008 |
keep on reading girl and dont look back. |
darth frosty
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Re: i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
posted Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:42:00 GMT
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![]() MichiganPost 3509 of 4041 Since 11/28/2005 |
Welcome MsGrowingGirl20! |


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but i'm prayin to Almighty God and i know He'll direct me if i need to be directed.....and YES He does answer prayers!!!

Keep this stuff to yourself while you work out what you want to do, otherwise you will just invite a whole lot of problems your way when you could do without that sort of agro. So take yer time and work thru this period of discovery.
England, Surrey