Would you go back if you thought there were one in a million chances you were wrong?


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    Paul Duda posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:37:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    Often I wake up in a cold sweat wondering if I'm wrong. Life is short. I have only a brief time to make a decision. Am I making the right one? What are the consequences if go back and I'm wrong? What if I don't go back and I'm wrong? Am I missing the greatest opportunity of all time?

    Sometimes I buy a lottery ticket even though I have serious doubts that I'll ever win. Buying a ticket lets me have the dream of 'what if...' I think about what my life would be like.

    If I return and I'm wrong, I'll never know. At the very least I'll get to dream 'what if...'

    MrFreeze posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:39:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    cantleave posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:40:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    I am right, 100% right.

    punkofnice posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:47:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    I figure your posting here is evidence enough you know the watchtower is a high control group with no Biblical basis.

    If you believe in the 'Christian' concept of God then even the JDubs tell that he 'reads hearts'!

    By way of illustration:

    If my kindergarten age son did a drawing in honour of me and it was just crayoned scribbles, I'd be very happy and commend him. He's expressing love not 'apostasy'. I wouldn't punish him for not giving me a Rembrandt!

    If there is a god and that god reads hearts..............don't sweat it!!

    Just remember all the reasons you realise the watchtower is not the one true way to god.

    Consider this...............are these words of Christian love???

    ''...in order to hate what is bad a Christian must hate the person... " Watchtower 1961 Jul 15 p.420

    MrFreeze posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:49:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    Paul, your thinking that just means they still have control over your mind. This will fade as time goes.

    Trust me, you have a better chance of winning the lottery than winning the prize of everlasting life as described by JW's. We have proof that people have actually won the lottery.

    Paul Duda posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:51:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    Maybe it's been asked many times before but it's something I think about. I'm just asking if anyone else ever thinks this way.

    Paul Duda posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:58:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    I also wonder if waking up in cold sweat is some form of post traumatic stress. Why does it keep happening after all these years?

    Nickolas posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:00:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    One in a million? No. I don't buy lottery tickets, either.

    WTWizard posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:04:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    How many other religions have at one time or another tried to predict the end, even once, and were wrong? The Washtowel came out of a heated argument about the end date, which started in the 1830s in the Wild West. Someone decided to settle it once and for all time, putting the end date in 1874. That happened in 1872. Did the end come in 1874? What happened when 1875 came and nothing happened? Did they apologize and admit they were totally off on predicting the end, or did they simply move the end date to a later year?

    And, how many times did they try that crap? The end always seems about a year or so off--that same year or so that it has been off since 1874. Do you actually think this time is different?

    And even if it was right, I already looked at all possibilities. Whether the religion was true or not, I concluded that I would still be better off without it. And the worst was the religion being right and I stay in--life without fulfillment is far worse than getting destroyed. If you still want to dream about something grand, try buying a few ounces of silver (or more if you can afford it) and dream of seeing its price go to the moon.

    M jookbeard posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:08:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    no way even if I was wrong, it is a dull , boring , physically/mentally draining belief system full of dull, picky , stupid sad , petty people that no one needs to have to open their lives to, I'd accept my eternal damning whatever it would be.

    F no more kool aid posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:11:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    Paul, I think you need to read both Steve Hasaan books again about how cults work on your psyche. However, I think we all have a measure of the feelings you are experiencing depending on how long you have been out, but then again it is a result of a life time of mental conditioning. I hope you can make peace with your decision. NMKA

    aquagirl posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:11:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    I know so strongly that the JW stuff is BS,that Id bet all of my......GUITARS!!!!!!! on it...Im just a bit confused and disapointed as to why my parents and sister took the bait,hook line and sinker.Oh well "theres a sucker born every minute"...No me tho.

    OUTLAW posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:13:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    What if an organization that hasn`t been right once in over 130 years,is finally right?..

    Sometime in the Future?..


    Thats a Lot of Hope for 100% Failure..



    redhare67 posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:22:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    We all get that feeling, sometime or the other, but I prefer waiting to see who is right!

    clarity posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:31:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    Did you ever know a drug addict? Withdrawal makes them sweat bullets!

    Hallucinations, nightmares, panick attacks ... you name it!

    Once the drug has cleared their body for long enough, they come back down to earth!


    This is you ... so to speak. Once you get completely off your diet of watchtower brain wash, and constantly hearing the programed retoric spilling out of the mouths of all those deluded people ......... long enough, you will be able to THINK clearly and be your NORMAL self!

    You have a lot to look forward to!


    shamus100 posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:35:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    You're obviously not over it.

    It takes time. ;) Do not be terrified about dying. Trust me, you are going to die. What happens after that you need to figure out for yourself.

    Trust me on this: You aren't going to be f****** around on earth farming, petting lions, and cleaning up monkey crap for the rest of your life. Or admiring waterfalls that shall surely litter the planet in the JW's paradise. ;D

    Darkside Blues posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:16:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    No. I'd rather be "destroyed" with millions of other people (who in the grander scheme of things didn't need to be destroyed) than live in some bland "utopia" where there's no genuine diversity (no people of other faiths/philosophies, no LGBT community, etc.)

    Besides, it's not a real paradise if I can't sit on my duff and do nothing all day. ;)

    M flipper posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:19:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    Paul- There isn't a snowball's chance in hell that the WT society is right. They are wrong, believe me. And you are NOT wrong to doubt thir authenticity. They are a scam organization designed to use people's lives up and bilk them financially. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

    00DAD posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:24:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    I'm not 100% right, but then I don't punish people for disagreeing with me.

    The WT, on the other hand, has been WRONG about so many things I would NEVER, EVER GO BACK.

    I know some people do return. But then again so do some women return to men that beat them. It's called Battered Woman Syndrome:

    "Victims of the battered woman syndrome are often afraid to leave the man and the situation; change, loneliness, and the unknown are perceived as more painful than the beatings."

    I'm done, I am so done. Now I'm ready for The Burning Bed. Anyone got a match?

    Mad Sweeney posted Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:33:00 GMT(9/5/2011)

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    If there was a one in a million chance that I'm wrong and the Borg was right, I'd be right back in there.

    But there isn't. I don't know everything. I don't even know a lot. But I know this: The Borg is wrong. They are wrong doctrinally and they are wrong in how they treat their fellow human beings. What they do should be criminal. Some day I hope it will be.


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