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February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service

    Red Piller February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 01:33:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit




    Post 21 of 101
    Since 9/22/2010

    heard this today from a good source. My guess everybody is delaying leaving the service meeting - and this is an attempt to fix this.

    That's what I see in our service groups - no one is in any rush to go out (again)

    I<3MYGod Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 01:35:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit




    Post 50 of 76
    Since 11/5/2010

    perhaps they will start with a daily fortune cookie instead....at least then you get a snack :D

    mentallyfree31 Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 03:28:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit




    Post 607 of 720
    Since 2/14/2010

    I used to conduct 3 to 4 field service meetings a week.  I did this for years.  They were dreadful.  I finally ran out of things to say.  I was so glad when another male started going out in service during the week so I didn't have to conduct.

    -MF31-

    Aussie Oz Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 04:40:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit




    Post 1255 of 3110
    Since 11/12/2009

    maybe they realize that having a scriptural start to the day is

    out of sync with the business of selling books...

    I mean, who ever heard of sales meetings starting with the bible...it don't belong!

    oz

     

    Snoozy Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 05:30:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit


    United States Missouri

    Post 2476 of 3822
    Since 11/3/2001

    They used to say a prayer at some of our business meetings at bank conferences.

    I remember thinking "What tha heck?"

    Snoozy

     

    flipper Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 05:50:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit


    United States California

    Post 12115 of 15765
    Since 3/7/2007

     

      I tend to go along with Aussie Oz on this " having a scriptural start is out of sync with selling books. " And I'll go one step further - Discussing a Bible text takes the control and power away from the GB and gives it back to God . NOT discussing a Bible text opens up more WT society information to be discussed . Which is what they prefer to do anyway- discussing their OWN views, not the Bible. Most mind control cults like pushing their own views. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

    WTWizard Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 08:42:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit




    Post 11269 of 13388
    Since 5/10/2007

    When I had to do the daily text, it involved fitting the scripture in with field circus.  Invariably, it meant taking it out of context and misapplying it to guilt others into doing more field circus.

    But on the other hand, it does waste time.  Usually, it wastes a good 10 minutes.  Not that stragglers don't, but the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger probably wants to eliminate this waste of time.  Rather, they would have the witlesses in the territory at 9:10 AM so they can wake up people that much sooner (like on Christmas Day, so they can have a better chance of holding up the children getting to their presents).  It also forces the witlesses to get up 15 minutes earlier, depriving them of that much sleep, so they can be that much more tired and not think clearly.

    Witness 007 Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 08:49:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit


    Australia

    Post 5141 of 5458
    Since 8/28/2007

    No "Daily Text Brainwash" before service?  This may lead to independant thinking for the Watchtower robots out in service! 

    dozy Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:29:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit


    United States

    Post 788 of 1181
    Since 2/18/2006

    I assume that this is an instruction not to use the text in meetings for field services but rather to find some more appropriate material. If so , then there isn't really much of a change as doing the text in a meeting for field service was always optional.

     km2/89p.2QuestionBox It is not necessary to discuss the daily text at each meeting. If the text for that day obviously provides a basis for giving encouragement in field service, it may be considered briefly.

    zoiks Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:02:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit




    Post 1377 of 2047
    Since 9/27/2009

    In the year before my exit, our CO specifically told us NEVER to use the daily text at meetings for FS.  We were to prepare material from an appropriate WT article, or a talking point from the Reasoning book, or something similar.  Daily text was considered a last resort, but heavily discouraged.

    The result was that the already overworked brothers were having to essentially prepare yet another meeting part for field service.

    Eiben Scrood Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:31:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit




    Post 91 of 153
    Since 2/11/2010

    I used to *hate* conducting meetings for field service.  What a nightmare!  Everyone was half-asleep anyway, no one wanted to comment and then arranging the car groups was the very worst part of it all. 

    One time I actually walked out!  I was only 19 at the time and the situation so overwhelmed me that I just left.

    life is to short Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:31:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit




    Post 720 of 1575
    Since 8/22/2009

    When my husband was an elder none of the other elders would conduct. It was horrible to sit there and watch. I remember one time there were four elders there and it was five minutes past the time to start. The PO was there, etc. My husband was like someone has to conduct but if he did it they would jump him for it because he was running ahead we were new to the hall. It was so strange. The brother who was supposed to conduct was not their yet, so my husband went to the PO and the PO said loudly I not conducting I am not prepared, the SO said he was not prepared, etc. Finally my husband conducted that was the start to the new hall the brothers were upset with my husband for not waiting for the brother who was supposed to conduct to get there? I know makes no sense.

    What I saw in every hall I went to was no one wanted to conduct expect the child molester. He loved it.

    LITS

    JW GoneBad Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:29:00 GMT (12/18/2010) edit




    Post 75 of 727
    Since 10/23/2010

    Red Piller:

    Your source is right again!  This a.m. at the KH meeting for F.S. it is mentioned that though it appears in the Feb 2011 KM, the daily text is going to be scrapped now! 

    That means those conducting will have to be even more 'long winded'.

    Red Piller Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Tue, 21 Dec 2010 23:14:00 GMT (12/21/2010) edit




    Post 22 of 101
    Since 9/22/2010

    thanks for the update...! Interesting development, huh?

    Red Piller Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:12:00 GMT (12/31/2010) edit




    Post 25 of 101
    Since 9/22/2010

    This is now official. From the Feb KM:

    In the past, meetings for field service
    might have included a brief discussion of
    the daily text if it related to the ministry.
    This is being adjusted. Examining the Scriptures
    Daily should no longer be used as a basis
    for discussion during meetings for service

    Open mind Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:18:00 GMT (12/31/2010) edit


    Uzbekistan

    Post 5437 of 6031
    Since 8/30/2006

    I had an elder with JW.org access confirm this the other day.  He looked at the Feb KM online.

     

    om

    badseed Re: February 2011 KM - no more daily text before service posted Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:25:00 GMT (12/31/2010) edit


    United States

    Post 72 of 394
    Since 1/15/2007

    ya, meeting at mcdonalds is much better.

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