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    F mrsjones5 posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 07:11:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    Over the Thanksgiving weekend my family and I stayed with a dear friend. Our dear friend partakes of medical cannabis which helps with his depression, insomnia, and panic attacks. He suggested that my husband should give it a try because it could help relieve his pain and help him to sleep during the night.

    So hubby tried it (three nights in a row, about 15 minutes each session), didn't like the scatchy throat he got from inhaling the smoke but he said it helped his pain and he was able to rest. He wasn't too comfortable partaking but since we've been home he's kinda changed his mind about it. Says that the quality of his sleep was better, his blood pressure went down, his pain was less and he was able to sleep during the night, and he had no acid reflux (well that was because he didn't take his prescribed medication (about 18 to 22 pills every night) during the time he was smoking the pot).

    Now hubby is seriously considering getting a prescription for medical cannabis. I don't have a problem with it as long as it helps my husband.

    F cognizant dissident posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 07:47:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    I have so much compassion for anyone who is suffering chronic illness and pain. It is depressing and can wear one down over time. Whatever gets you through the day, is my motto, and no one else should judge.

    Every medication has its side effects including marijuana. After educating oneself, it's a judgement call on the person who is suffering to decide whether the benefits outweigh the risks for any medication and in choosing between medications. Sometimes its just a case of choosing between the lesser of two evils.

    No one else's judgements are needed or helpful.

    F nelly136 posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:58:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    i know someone who uses it for pain, theyre not a smoker so they eat it instead.

    F nelly136 posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 12:01:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_foods

    M new light posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 12:45:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    Anything that gets someone off of 18-22 pills a night is a good thing. It is good that you live in a state that allows you the option of MMJ. I suggest looking into buying a vaporizer, which heats the weed only enough to release the medicine without making smoke. Quite a bit easier on the lungs. And then there are the edibles as mentioned above. Good luck.

    M OnTheWayOut posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:01:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    It can't really hurt (much) to have him look into it and ask a doctor about it. Just remind him to be careful about mentioning who shared their medical supply with him. I don't know how that might go down.

    F only me posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:40:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    My SIL uses a vaporizor to smoke his medical marijuana. Takes a lot of the harshness and carcinogens out.

    Nelly is right about the food too...cannibis has an affinity for chocolate.

    The_Present_Truth posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:43:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    MrsJones5,

    As someone who was raised a JW and is generally conservative/ leans "right" in my political beliefs, I never thought I'd say this but I actually support the legalization of at the very least medicinal cannabis. It strikes me as absolutely absurd that "man" would outlaw a naturally occurring plant that was likely in existence before man was. All these other prescription drugs have side effects - many of them very dangerous. The government and companies have zero issue with legalizing, producing and prescribing drugs for depression that could for instance make you want to commit suicide. It's crazy. Now, I don't use cannabis. I tried one hit about a dozen years ago and nothing happened. However, I have researched it for business purposes. The landscape of the medicinal market is changing and I think eventually there will be opportunity there.

    That said, check out these forums:

    http://www.gardenscure.com/420/

    http://www.marijuana.com/forum/

    Tell your husband that the little burn in the back of his throat could have been caused by the grower not flushing the roots of his plants with water to get the nutrients he had fed them out of their system. It shouldn't bite like that in the back of the throat. Also if it happens to pop at all when it's lit, that can signal that there are still chemical nutrients present in the bud. He'd also probably benefit from consumption via a vaporizer vs. smoking it. Much healthier. You'll also find recipes on the above forums for cooking with it.

    Again, I'm just very well read. I promise. Hope he finds some relief.

    F purplesofa posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:50:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    Glad it's helping your hubby MrsJones!!

    purps

    M NomadSoul posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:52:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    A tip if you don't end up using a vaporizer.

    Use a bong. Use ice cold water. And depending on the design, you can put ice in there to cool the water down. This will significantly cool down the smoke and won't cause a scratchy throat. Rinse and repeat as needed.

    F mrsjones5 posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 15:08:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    i know someone who uses it for pain, theyre not a smoker so they eat it instead.

    Thanks for the link Nelly, I suggested that to my husband as an alternative to smoking.

    I suggest looking into buying a vaporizer, which heats the weed only enough to release the medicine without making smoke. Quite a bit easier on the lungs.

    That's a cool idea Newlight, thanks. I'll look into and inform my husband about that option too.

    Just remind him to be careful about mentioning who shared their medical supply with him.

    Not a problem OTWO, that info is totally on the downlow.

    Tell your husband that the little burn in the back of his throat could have been caused by the grower not flushing the roots of his plants with water to get the nutrients he had fed them out of their system. It shouldn't bite like that in the back of the throat. Also if it happens to pop at all when it's lit, that can signal that there are still chemical nutrients present in the bud.

    Thank you for the info and the links TPT. Hubby's friend knows the grower personally and we'll pass on the tip.

    Use a bong.

    It's that similiar or the same thing as a hoopa(h)?

    Thank you everyone for your suggestions and words of kindness and encouragement.

    I love the smart folks we got here on JWN.

    The_Present_Truth posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 15:28:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    One other thing I forgot to mention MrsJones ... I also read that often times the "bite" in the back of the throat can be attributed to residual flint from the lighter being used. Flint residue traveling through the flame and being inhaled. There are some YouTube videos on the subject. As an alternative, some people who try to keep things organic use a glass sphere like a magnifying glass to light their bud and thus eliminate the presence of flint etc.

    M NomadSoul posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 15:38:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    Present Truth,

    You're reading too much into it. The bite or scratchy feeling in the back of the throat is most of the time caused by the quality of the weed. Some smoke finer than others, that's why bongs are so popular because it's great at cooling down the smoke.

    Like the comment you made about flushing is irrevelant when you don't know if he's smoking soil growned.

    The_Present_Truth posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 15:57:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    NomadSoul ... flushing is stil necessary in soil if your feeding the plant chemical nutrients. Soil is just the growing medium, like clay pellets are, or any of the other various methods used in hydroponics. The chemical nutrients are what are sucked up into the plant. Most indoor growers who take it seriously are going to recommend a flush prior to harvest whether it's a soil grow or hydro. True i don't know if his came from a soil grow or not, but it is a factor that can be taken into consideration. Ditto on the bongs.

    Thread on flushing: http://www.gardenscure.com/420/planting-indoors/141418-when-start-flushing.html

    You can search that forum for threads on the subject ..."flushing soil grow" .... I came up with 103 pages of threadswhere it is discussed. Plants get a build up of that stuff if that's what they're being fed. it's much healthier to flush it out of them. Our bodies get build ups of things too. It's just the way it is.

    By the way, after following that forum for a good long time, getting to know who's a serious legal medical grower and who's just messing around, and actually seeing their grows chronicled in pictures ...you begin to realize who knows their stuff and who doesn't.

    The_Present_Truth posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:04:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    Now soil grown as in outdoors, planted in the ground where the growing medium is not in a confined space - that may be an exception to flushing. Most serious medical growers aren't going to be growing like that though. Too many variables that can't be controlled. If I were a grower I'd never risk a crop to the outdoor elements.

    M NomadSoul posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:12:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    Present Truth,

    That is just overkill in explaining the scratchy throat. I think he's smoking it, not growing it. lol Sometimes smoking it is different from reading articles on it.

    The_Present_Truth posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:21:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    Perhaps you're right NS ... just remember that what you smoke is grown by someone, and the process they use, and strains involved will determine your overall experience. It's kind of like someone being able to cook or not being able to cook. The act of eating two different meals can be the same, the ingredients can be the same, but how they're brought together in the process determines the overall result of the entree and enjoyment of the meal.

    Big difference between ditch weed and something that's been cultivated by a pro. Don't ask how I know.

    F only me posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:24:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    Sometimes the prescription calls for other drugs to be added to the marijuana, my SIL has recurrent brain tumors and I know they lace the pot with other drugs for him. His come through the vaporizor, but I think the doctor or pharmacist should be consulted on the best method of use for the individual.

    M NomadSoul posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:27:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    Well it's like any product. If you buy it from one place and you don't like it you go to the next business. And you're totally right, it's a skill to grow it.

    But I do really believe in this case it has nothing to do with the quality of the weed, but just the fact that it's his first time.

    And don't knock down ditch weed, lol If that's only you can afford you can still make it easier to smoke.

    The_Present_Truth posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:33:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    You're right NS ....afterall, all strains were essentially ditch weed (wild growing) before man learned how to enhance the growth of the plant.

    You're right on there being ways to make it more user friendly. Hopefully MrJones can find a good fit and start enjoying the plant of the gods.

    Peace

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