"Spiritually Strong" JWs Are Actually Spiritually Weak


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    M new light posted Tue, 17 Aug 2010 01:43:00 GMT(8/17/2010)

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    The more a person does in JW busy work, the weaker spirit they must actually have. Many times, they are simply overcompensating or trying to fill

    a void in themselves. If they were actually "spiritually strong", I believe they would see the petty nature of turning in time and enduring formulaic

    read the paragraph and then rephrase the paragraph meetings. Zealous JWs are empty inside, when compared to those the real world would

    deem spiritual. Being a "spiritually strong" JW means being so dead inside that you believe handling microphones or touring the countryside

    hocking leaflets is going to win the heart of the creator of the universe. Anyone care to add?

    M asilentone posted Tue, 17 Aug 2010 02:11:00 GMT(8/17/2010)

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    Long time ago, One elder told me that brother is very spiritually strong and I told him he has alots of R Rated Movies in his home, he was shocked.

    Broken Promises posted Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:05:00 GMT(8/17/2010)

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    What took me out of the Borg was the need for spiritual fulfillment.

    I just wasn’t satisfied with glib answers and superficial people. The more I prayed for answers, the more I fell out of the religion.

    Good thread.

    NowAndThen posted Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:41:00 GMT(8/17/2010)

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    Spirituality is self-growth. You don't brag about it because it is actually humbling just how little you know, and how very little you will continue to know. Spirituality is not parroting a couple of scriptures, or discussing "prophecy" or trying to read into some kind of crystal ball to know what the seven horns or Nebuchadnezer represent today. Spirituality is what your life portrays as you imbibe inspiration from scripture.

    In short, spirituality manifests itself by its fruits. Paul said so, and I agree fully.


    M new light posted Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:36:00 GMT(8/17/2010)

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    I believe a person can be spiritually strong with no religion or even fixed belief in a god. One who is strong in spirit displays a buoyant resilience in the face of adversity. In good times, this person remains humble and empathetic toward his fellow beings, while freely offering his strength and positivity to those in need, knowing he is connected to that something that has no limits. The strongest in spirit do these things of their own volition without care for some big prize at the end of their time here on Earth.

    Aussie Oz posted Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:43:00 GMT(8/17/2010)

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    Sad but true isn't it!?

    The busier one is 'doing works', one has less time to focus on faith! And truth.

    The more time spent studying the WT lit to try and be more spiritual, the 'dumber' one becomes.

    It just does not work... the amount of time i put into theocratic activities as a Reg pioneer and MS, why, i should have been a spiritual giant! instead, i was as weak as dishwater


    life is to short posted Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:47:00 GMT(8/17/2010)

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    I so totally agree, my husband was an elder and pioneer when I married him. I thought that he had to be so spiritual doing all of that, but he had no time. He was the only elder with a congregation of 50 people who all had problems, 10+ were on meds for depression and always flipping out. He was always being asked to go to someones home to counsel them when he is not trained as a counselor it never mattered if I needed him after all I was just his wife so what. He was running 24 7, he had no time for himself much less his new wife. I just did not see it before we were married because he gave me one night a week after that went away too.

    It was just a sick religion, I talked to the PO and he said to wait on Jehovah and that Jehovah would not give me more than I could handle and Jehovah saw that I was strong, bla, bla, bla.

    My husband was not spiritually strong he just could not be with all that was demanded of him all he had was head knowledge of the stupid WT.


    M asilentone posted Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:43:00 GMT(8/17/2010)

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    lits, my ex wife told me if I ever became an elder, she said she would dump me. She told me that while I was a ministerial servant.

    WTWizard posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:21:00 GMT(8/18/2010)

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    True spiritual strength has less to do with how well we obey the leaders. The need to have others make our decisions is a sign of spiritual weakness, not strength. A spiritually strong person has a set of values that is not easily usurped. Such a person does not need to be careful about listening to debasing music, and can listen to even the most debasing music if the artistic merit is strong enough and not be moved to do something bad or offended by the subject. A strong person can look at debasing movies and not be swayed into doing what is portrayed therein. And, a spiritually strong person is going to make their own decisions without someone else having to do that for them.

    Compare the witlesses. The "strong" witlesses always consult the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger before doing anything. They are afraid to miss a boasting session, since there might be new instructions as to handle personal matters that they should be able to make their own decisions on. They always read the rags and littera-trash before making any decisions on personal matters. Before starting a job, they will look at the rags instead of whether or not they can handle the work. They need someone to tell them what music to listen to, when to get up and go to bed, how to act during a$$emblies, and so on.

    If anything, I view the need for all those stupid "Keep Moving" and "Quiet" signs and "one towel" rules at the a$$emblies as a sign of serious spiritual weakness among the masses. If people were spiritually strong, they would not need instruction on things like these. Yes, they might want cautions about heat or other situations about which the risks are not well known or that they might not know exist. But, do they need someone telling them how many towels they need to properly dry their hands?

    life is to short posted Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:18:00 GMT(8/18/2010)

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    asilenton I have told my husband that now, if he ever becomes an elder again I will leave him. The other elders treated him like crap they dumped on him all the problems of the hall had him doing all the jobs no one else wanted so they could spend time with their families. I guess I did not count to the other elders.

    M new light posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 00:02:00 GMT(8/19/2010)

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    Enjoying your comments, everyone!

    The truly strong spirts eventually grow tired of being told what to do by those in darkness and ake their way out.

    Aussie Oz posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:28:00 GMT(8/19/2010)

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    spirituality for JWs is purely an outward show

    my girli know when dating her long gone ex husband declared in a letter to me something along the lines of

    ''he's so spiritual...always answers up and has his watchtower marked''


    M new light posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:05:00 GMT(8/19/2010)

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    Aussie Oz-- We all knew that he who has the most colorfully marked Watchtower is nearest to God. I remember this one mouth breather whose

    IQ must have been somewhere near 75 used like four different highlighters and a pen to mark up his studies. It was such a joke, as the man could

    get lost in a child's placemat at a restaurant for hours, yet that rainbow of a study article made him feel and look like a WT scholar. Nice well

    meaning guy, to be fair, but a great example of the puddle depth spirituality WT encourages.

    compound complex posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:14:00 GMT(8/19/2010)

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    Greetings, new light:

    [...] a great example of the puddle depth spirituality WT encourages.

    Good one!

    The shallowness runs deep.

    Best regards,


    M new light posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:25:00 GMT(8/19/2010)

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    Thanks, CoCo! That means a lot coming from a talented writer such as yourself.

    compound complex posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:29:00 GMT(8/19/2010)

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    You're very kind, new light. Thank you.

    I look forward to reading more of your posts!

    Have a good day,


    M Gordy posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:57:00 GMT(8/19/2010)

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    "spirituality" was measured by:

    how many hours you did in service,

    how many publications you placed,

    the meetings you attended

    how often you answered up at meetings.

    following the Watchtower to the letter

    Soldier77 posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:18:00 GMT(8/19/2010)

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    I couldn't agree more with you. The more I was "used for service" to the WTBTS, literature duties, attendant, mic/sound, landscaping... the less time I had to reflect on anything that related to my actual spirituality. To think I thought that actually "doing works" was actually getting me a spot saved in the New System of Things™.

    What bullshit.

    TastingFreedom posted Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:39:00 GMT(8/19/2010)

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    Very interesting!!! Totally agree!

    F ESTEE posted Fri, 20 Aug 2010 03:47:00 GMT(8/20/2010)

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    They are "strong" only as long as their bubble does not burst.



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