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JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs!

    Alligator Wisdom JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:24:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit




    Post 542 of 579
    Since 10/30/2002

    Twenty+ year veteran Japanese Bethelites sent to the field as Special Pioneers. I don't have the exact number laid off. However, there are a total of 550+ members at the Ebina Branch, so if the trend reflects the same as in the U.S. and Europe branches, then we can assume at least between 10% - 20%.

    In order to counterbalance the need for a work force BUT without having to incur expenses by housing and feeding them, Japan Bethel is considering opening the door to "commuting Bethelites". These would be brothers who live outside the "commune" and would be willing to travel/commute to work voluntarily at the Japan branch. Something similiar to volunteer Regional Building Committee workers who do quick builds.

    I'll update as I learn more.

    Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

     

    sir82 Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:28:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit


    Mongolia

    Post 3859 of 4516
    Since 5/17/2005

    Jah's mighty chariot flies onward....

    If it happens to run over a few dozen, or hundred, or thousand, loyal soldiers on its way, well, that's the price of progress....

    zoiks Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:36:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit




    Post 290 of 942
    Since 9/27/2009

    I wonder what, if any, effect the cultural background will have on those sent away.

    Gayle Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:40:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit


    United States Arizona

    Post 1320 of 1765
    Since 11/17/2006

    Wow!  Interesting!  So, the Japan branch wouldn't have to provide room and board expense for those.  (Maybe Japan has a type of taxing obligation on 'room & board' that the WTS doesn't want to pay?)  Plus, the volunteers may have a family supporting them or a part-time job?  I don't see how this will work for very long for the WTS.   It seems the WTS is in a 'mania' downsizing and moving worldwide.  Something's up! 

    Gregor Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:42:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit


    United States Oregon

    Post 4865 of 5567
    Since 12/12/2005

    "I wonder what...effect the cultural background will have on those sent away"

    watson Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:46:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit


    United States

    Post 3347 of 3658
    Since 3/17/2005

    I think the "Watchtower" facebook fan page should hear about this!!

    yknot Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:50:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit


    Syrian Arab Republic

    Post 5992 of 7956
    Since 8/24/2007

    Once again I am 'sad' for the gutted feeling of those newly SPd ......but ecstatic that the WTS overall is hurting financially!

    Hopefully Possible-san's Japanese site will get some new members!

    Alligator Wisdom Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:05:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit




    Post 543 of 579
    Since 10/30/2002

    Gayle said : the volunteers may have a family supporting them or a part-time job.

    This is what seems to be what the Japan Bethel is looking for. Plus, this opens the door for those ambitious type brothers who can now claim "Bethel" status if they can be accepted to go as commuter workers. I assume this volunteer work will be accepted into their pioneer time.

    Gregor : LOL!

    Ynot : The SP status won't last forever for these newly laid off ones. They were originally hoping to make it a Bethel career, and eventually being cared for when they are old and invalid IF the New System doesn't come in their lifetime. But now, reality bites.

    Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

     

     

    daniel-p Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:09:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit


    United States

    Post 4326 of 4724
    Since 10/22/2005

    These laid-off Bethelites will become like Ronin, consigned to wander without a master, looked down upon with disdain from those Bethelites who were not forced out, yet unprepared to end their JW lives.

    moshe Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:12:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit


    United States Indiana

    Post 3269 of 4186
    Since 1/18/2005

    Obviously, it would be shameful in Japan to be on of the ones kicked out- you must have done something wrong in their mind.

    Mad Sweeney Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:28:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit




    Post 357 of 2649
    Since 11/2/2009

    The bigwigs have no inkling of the cultures of people they indoctrinate.  They're big on languages but not big on the driving forces behind language: culture.  Indeed, JWs aren't supposed to have any culture other than the Dub culture.

    bohm Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:37:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit




    Post 596 of 1478
    Since 5/12/2009

    I once read that laying off people in japan was a big problem - there is (was?) a cultural thing where people assume (or assumed?) that once you were employed at a company, and you did not screw up, you could not get fired.

    God_Delusion Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:46:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit




    Post 149 of 215
    Since 3/13/2009

    I know that Mill Hill are laying off long-serving idiots.  Maybe it's a worldwide business plan?

    Farkel Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:53:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit




    Post 10499 of 11050
    Since 3/14/2001

    It's pretty pathetic that a Worldwide Corporation cannot even afford to house and feed FREE slave labor!

    Farkel

    dissed Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:56:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit




    Post 1034 of 1964
    Since 9/1/2009

    Yes, that's right. Being laid off a job in Japan, that you were doing for free, would bring shame, plus great embarassment to the GB.

    "Brother 'we-don't-need-you-no-more'. You must do the honorable thing. Pack your items, leave immediately, and then committ Sepuku."

    Open mind Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:20:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit


    Uzbekistan

    Post 4650 of 5174
    Since 8/30/2006

    "Dear 20+ year loyal Bethelite,

     

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    JWoods Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:23:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit




    Post 1766 of 4216
    Since 6/23/2009

    Did I read the first post correctly - they had 550+ members at the Japan Branch?

    What in the world would they need this many for?

    linp24 Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:49:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit




    Post 55 of 136
    Since 7/31/2009

    watson  ....yes they need to hear about it. 

    Alligator Wisdom Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:04:00 GMT (1/20/2010) edit




    Post 544 of 579
    Since 10/30/2002

    JWoods said : Did I read the first post correctly - they had 550+ members at the Japan Branch? What in the world would they need this many for?

    The Japan branch at Ebina covers most of Southeast Asia in terms of printing and translating. They also cover this specific zone in the service department in the sense that that often send brothers and sisters from local Japanese congregations or from Bethel itself to these lands (i.e. Malaysia, Nepal, Indonesia) under missionary status.

    As you can guess, I live in Japan. I've been to Ebina several times and know dozens of Japanese Bethelites. Over the years I can see how they are now "worker" heavy in terms of liability and expense.

    bohmsaid : I once read that laying off people in japan was a big problem - there is (was?) a cultural thing where people assume (or assumed?) that once you were employed at a company, and you did not screw up, you could not get fired.

    So true. Lifetime employment had always been part of the cultural norm in this country. Not any longer.......even if you are volunteering.

    Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)

    metatron Re: JAPAN Bethel downsizes with layoffs! posted Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:13:00 GMT (1/21/2010) edit




    Post 4958 of 5237
    Since 4/7/2001

    Farkel has made a profound point about these heartless layoffs by the Watchtower Society:  they're almost slaves as it is,  their labor is nearly free and the Watchtower STILL CAN'T AFFORD TO KEEP THEM !

    Meditate on his point deeply.  How many companies would layoff workers who cost them almost nothing?

    I say they are in deep trouble.

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