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What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses?

    eyeslice What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:42:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit




    Post 1226 of 1249
    Since 3/1/2002

    Sorry if this has been posted before but what do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? Are they only in Romania? How many are they? How do their numbers compare to actual JWs?

    All I know is that they seem to sing a whole lot better than the standard JWs.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/vestitorulimparatiei#p/u/18/qZ26y87sW_M

    moski7 Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:47:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit



    Post 1 of 7
    Since 11/3/2009

    What do you mean by True Faith?

    eyeslice Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:50:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit




    Post 1228 of 1249
    Since 3/1/2002

    Hi moski7 - I guess that is why I am asking 

     

    What I think I know is that they are a break away group from the standard JWs in Romainia. Apart from that I know nothing else.

     

    jookbeard Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:51:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit

    United Kingdom England, Surrey

    Post 1248 of 1325
    Since 1/28/2008

    haven't searched on them in a while , the last I remember on them is that they are a Bible Student style group basing their belief on the teachings of CT Russell, figure wise I wouldn't say they would be particularly large if you look at the Millennial Dawn/Laymans Home Missionary here in the UK they are very small groups

    Mickey mouse Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:53:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit




    Post 2062 of 2138
    Since 12/11/2007
    moski7 Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:53:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit



    Post 2 of 7
    Since 11/3/2009

    Hi

    How did you become a JW? 

    moski7 Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:56:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit



    Post 3 of 7
    Since 11/3/2009

    I'm curious, checking out CT Russell and found out that he disagreed with the doctrine of hell that's why he left Christianity and started the Watchtower.

    jookbeard Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:01:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit

    United Kingdom England, Surrey

    Post 1249 of 1325
    Since 1/28/2008

    moski7 , Russel did not form the Washtower he formed The Bible Students

    moski7 Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:05:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit



    Post 4 of 7
    Since 11/3/2009

    oh ok did that then turn into the watchtower?

    eyeslice Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:11:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit




    Post 1232 of 1249
    Since 3/1/2002

    oh ok did that then turn into the watchtower?

     

    I think we are going off topic here. The history of the JWs is well documented on this site. What I am not sure about is this break away group.

    moski7 Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:17:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit



    Post 5 of 7
    Since 11/3/2009

    I'm curious how you got into the JW's?

    Albert Einstein Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:20:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit



    Post 387 of 469
    Since 3/9/2009

    In several former communist countries there are big breakaway JW groups.

    Besides of Romania its especially in former Soviet union (Ukraine, Moldova, Russia, Kazachstan) here it was due to the succesfull work of KGB, they implemented their agents in top positions within JW structure and they were causing confussion in "what is right or wrong". The breaking point was new light in 60´ about higher authorities (Jesus or wordly goverments?) JW were so confused not knowing whom to listen that they were willing to belive that the GB in Brooklyn became apostate and separated from them. This way thousands of witnesses became independent on Brooklyn and stopped recieving new literature. Until now they read Russel, Rutherford and old WT. They call themselves "Faithfull" and consider JW as apostates. They build KH  and make conventions. The only visible difrence you will see is that they smoke (They separated before the ban on smoking...)

    When I was in Ukraine, sometimes its a real mess... When you ask where are here JW - people ask you: "Which one do you mean???"

    In my country once there was a brother "JW" comming from Ukraine ... one family hospitably accomodate him, fed him and when they went together to the meeting he said "what time is the break so go to smoke??" Then they couldnt figure out "WHO IS HERE THE APOSTATE???"

    Albert (your expert on eastern Europe)

    jookbeard Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:20:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit

    United Kingdom England, Surrey

    Post 1250 of 1325
    Since 1/28/2008

    moski7 probably like most people ;

    a) born in

    b) called upon and started study

    there is usually nothing out of the ordinary as why people get seduced by the lies of the WTS

    sir82 Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:23:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit

    Mongolia

    Post 3568 of 3659
    Since 5/17/2005

    As I recall, I believe they are a group of JWs who, due to persecution in Romania, lost all contact with the WTBTS some time in the late 50's or early 60's. They just re-studied the literature they had on hand, over and over and over again.

    Then, when the Iron Curtain collapsed, they again got in touch with Brooklyn Bethel.

    But, they found that so much doctrine had changed in the intervening 30 years, especially with regard to the "higher authorities" of Romans chapter 13, that they felt that the WTS had committed apostasy. So they "disfellowshipped" Brooklyn and declared themselves as the "true", i.e., True Faith, Jehovah's Witnesses.

    Albert Einstein Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:27:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit



    Post 388 of 469
    Since 3/9/2009

    I can  say for former soviet countries - some had connected back to Brooklyn, but majority is very firm and see other JW as apostates. They dont have central headquarters, they are more like christian congregations of the 1st century.

    Albert

    moski7 Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:28:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit



    Post 6 of 7
    Since 11/3/2009

    jookbeard. I take it your not a JW then. Did you used to be one? Do you still believe in God.

    Albert Einstein Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:30:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit



    Post 389 of 469
    Since 3/9/2009

    But they sing really good. And sisters are very strict about head covering...

    http://www.youtube.com/user/vestitorulimparatiei#p/u/18/qZ26y87sW_M

     

    bigwilly Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:31:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit


    United States Oregon

    Post 1139 of 1154
    Since 11/1/2005
    bigwilly Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:32:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit


    United States Oregon

    Post 1140 of 1154
    Since 11/1/2005

    Pretty interesting stuff and something I'd not made myself aware of. I guess I shouldn't be suprised that these groups were never mentioned by my family or anyone else associated with the borg when I was.

    jookbeard Re: What do we know about the True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses? posted Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:32:00 GMT (11/5/2009) edit

    United Kingdom England, Surrey

    Post 1252 of 1325
    Since 1/28/2008

    moski ; no I'm not, yes I used to be one and I'm a born again agnostic with a bit of Deism thrown in, I'm an apostate and proud, this time last night I was proudly in attendance with a gathering of like minded Apostates with SweetPea's fine Apostanoodle!

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