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Were you always honest with your reports?

    Newborn Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:38:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit




    Post 486 of 700
    Since 7/18/2008

    I was...

    the last years I only did 4-5 hours max/month and they offered me pioneer support...huh...which I refused btw.

    Now I regret I didn't just put 20-30 hours every month without in fact going out in the booring service at all!!! Just to keep them happy.

    compound complex Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:49:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit




    Post 6718 of 6818
    Since 8/4/2006


    Hi Newborn,

    Well, I wouldn't swear on a Bible ...

    CoCo

    TheOldHippie Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:01:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 1726 of 1745
    Since 1/31/2001

    yes i was

    yesidid Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:32:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit

    Maldives

    Post 1239 of 1257
    Since 12/11/2002

    Actually I was a true believer.

    In later years I had a problem with the whole reporting culture. I couldn't see where it was scriptural.

    So for many years I went out in service but didn't put in a report.

    Before that I reported what I did.

    moomanchu Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:26:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    United States Pennsylvania

    Post 1207 of 1213
    Since 7/10/2004

    I was creatively honest.

    Honestly!

    MissingLink Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:12:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    Ireland

    Post 2266 of 2311
    Since 9/18/2007

    As a believer I thought it was a horribly bad idea to try to "trick" god by putting down extra stats.  Then when I was mentally free I didn't give a rats ass about the stats so I just put in 0.  So, yes, I was always honest.  Do I get a cookie?

    fokyc Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:16:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    United Kingdom England, Gloucestershire

    Post 1010 of 1038
    Since 5/30/2006

     

    YES, but it was a complete waste of time being honest, because the elders aren't honest anyway.

     

    fokyc

    pat1060 Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:27:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 13 of 49
    Since 10/11/2009

    Yes,always.It was the truth.They needed to see how the cong was doing.Another way of keeping control.

    highdose Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:48:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 268 of 373
    Since 6/6/2009

    no, i felt soo gulity about it, but at the same time on some level i wanted to keep the elders off my back i was a 1-5 hour a month fake publisher

    cantleave Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:50:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 801 of 962
    Since 6/25/2009

    Yep I was honest about the time, but the quality was appalling.

    chickpea Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:14:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 2384 of 2455
    Since 11/25/2007

    it never even occurred to me to fudge

    d 'oh!

     

    and that being said, it was eye-opening
    to learn that so many do it/did it as a matter
    of course, making the "statistics" the b0rg
    loves to parade as a banner utterly meaningless.....

    inbetween Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:19:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 57 of 64
    Since 6/29/2009

    honest, yes, looking back, i should have been not honest, and put in much less hours than i did, would have saved me from "privileges" ;-)

    Newborn Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:29:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit




    Post 488 of 700
    Since 7/18/2008

    How "good" we were!!!

    I say, cookies for everyone

    blondie Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:56:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 28207 of 28489
    Since 5/28/2001

    When do you start your time:

    jws who called people from the hall to start their time (people they knew were never home), then drove 20 minutes to the territory

    jws who called on a not at home next to the KH or book study location, people they knew were never home, then drove....

    jws who had started their time this way before they even met with the group....kept their time going even during the meeting for FS, then called....

     

    Kept their time going by:

    "witnessing" to an unbaptized publisher in the group

    "witnessing" to an unbaptized child in the group

    called an unbaptized child at home

     

    Counted their coffee breaks even if 1/2 to 45 minutes long by leaving a tract for the waitstaff.

     

    Quit at 11:30 but rounded off to 12 by calling the same person who was not home earlier.

    inbetween Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:00:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 58 of 64
    Since 6/29/2009

    did the same, calling on NH, just to start time, later on, I thought thats ridicolous, and counted time as soon as I was on the way to the territory, dressed up and ready, thats were service started, not at a fake call on somebody most likely not home...

    always hoped this reporting would stop one time, its not only not bible based, its even against bible principle, or do you write on a report how much you donate ?

    Atomahawk Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:29:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 65 of 67
    Since 7/2/2009

    I didn't have to fudge my reports I always felt what I did was what I could do even though some months were on the low side numbers.

    I pionneered full time for 3 years, thats when I found out about some of the tricks others were using as described by Blondie. I didn't feel that this was proper, but I wasn't the judge so it was none of my business.

    highdose Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:30:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit



    Post 270 of 373
    Since 6/6/2009

    if the dubs only counted the time that they actualy spent talking to unbaptising people about the JW's religon... what would their overall hours actualy be i wonder?

    Newborn Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:45:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit




    Post 493 of 700
    Since 7/18/2008

    in addition:

    if you go by twos, both report the same hours so in reality all hours should be devided by half...at least!!!

     

     

    WTWizard Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:35:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit




    Post 8964 of 9111
    Since 5/10/2007

    I used to count from 9:30 to noon (typically, I was in the territory at 9:30).  I would add the fractions for the month and drop the remainder.  Or, at least that's how I used to do it before it got so there was only one hour a month (and that was as likely as not an hour of dummy "service".

    yknot Re: Were you always honest with your reports? posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:49:00 GMT (11/3/2009) edit


    Syrian Arab Republic

    Post 5473 of 5639
    Since 8/24/2007

    Never....

    When I was first learned to count time..... I was told to alway round up to make it easier for the Servant.

    By the mid-nineties I was introduced in to full fledge fudgery but didn't actually use such tatics on a monthly basis until JWD.

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