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Jury Duty

    F beksbks posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:16:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    Do JW's do jury duty?

    F yknot posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:23:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    MOC....

    Please refer to April 1, 1997 QFR

    Here is a snippit...

    In balancing factors, Christians should consider whether they can submit to certain demands made by Caesar. Paul counseled: “Render to all [the superior authorities] their dues, to him who calls for the tax, the tax; to him who calls for the tribute, the tribute; to him who calls for fear, such fear.” (Romans 13:7) That is straightforward as to a monetary tax. (Matthew 22:17-21) If Caesar says that citizens must give of their time and efforts to clean roads or perform other work that is among Caesar’s functions, each Christian must decide whether to submit.—Matthew 5:41.
    Some Christians have viewed jury service as rendering to Caesar what belongs to Caesar. (Luke 20:25) In jury duty the task is to hear evidence and offer an honest opinion on points of fact or law. For example, on a grand jury, the jurors decide whether the evidence warrants someone’s being brought to trial; they do not determine guilt. What of a common trial? In a civil case, the jury might award damages or compensation. In a criminal case, they are to determine whether the evidence supports a guilty verdict. Sometimes they recommend which sentence stipulated by law should be applied. Then the government uses its authority “to express wrath upon the one practicing what is bad,” or “to inflict punishment on evildoers.”—1 Peter 2:14.
    What if a Christian does not feel that his conscience permits him to serve on a particular jury? The Bible does not mention jury duty, so he cannot say, ‘It is against my religion to serve on any jury.’ Depending on the case, he might state that serving on the jury for a particular case is against his personal conscience. That might be so if a case involves sexual immorality, abortion, manslaughter, or another issue on which his thinking is shaped by Bible knowledge, not by mere secular law. In reality, though, it is quite possible that the trial he is selected for does not involve such issues.
    A mature Christian would also reflect on whether he would share any responsibility for the sentence rendered by judges. (Compare Genesis 39:17-20; 1 Timothy 5:22.) If a guilty verdict is in error and the death penalty is imposed, would a Christian on the jury share bloodguilt? (Exodus 22:2; Deuteronomy 21:8; 22:8; Jeremiah 2:34; Matthew 23:35; Acts 18:6) At Jesus’ trial Pilate wanted to be “innocent of the blood of this man.” The Jews readily said: “His blood come upon us and upon our children.”—Matthew 27:24, 25.
    If a Christian reported for jury duty, as directed by the government, but because of his personal conscience declined to serve on a particular case despite the insistence of the judge, the Christian should be prepared to face the consequences—be that a fine or imprisonment.—1 Peter 2:19.
    In the final analysis, each Christian faced with jury duty must determine what course to follow, based on his understanding of the Bible and his own conscience. Some Christians have reported for jury duty and have served on certain juries. Others have felt compelled to decline even in the face of punishment. Each Christian has to decide for himself what he will do, and others should not criticize his decision.—Galatians 6:5.

    bluecanary posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:24:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    My understanding was always that they could as long as the death penalty wasn't an issue.

    I've been out of work for four months. I would be thrilled to be on a jury. How come it's only people who don't want it that get it?

    bluecanary posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:25:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    Crossposted, but at least Ynot has confirmed that I am always right.

    John Doe posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:45:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    I think I should call a few people here for "jury duty."

    dissed posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:00:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    Most of the JW's I knew tried the conscience thing to get out but failed most of the time.

    I never wanted to do it until the OJ trial. Then it was, I wanted my turn.

    I was seated once, then they excused me because of a work conflict. Rats! I was looking forward to it.

    F orangefatcat posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:05:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    During my 38 yrs as a witness I was called to jury duty three times. Each time I explained to the court that I felt in good conscience that I wouldn't make a good juror as I was a JW and to judge a person was not up to me but up to God. I would like the oppourtunity to try again though, but not on a murder charge. Civil suits or fraud etc.

    Each time I was exempt from duty.

    orangefatcat
    Judge



    M leavingwt posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:19:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    When I was at Bethel, Bethelites LOVED jury duty. They were paid $35 per day for jury duty. This was far more than the usual $3 per day.

    F beksbks posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:24:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    It's amazing the system works at all considering how many people are trying to get out of it. I did not want to do this at all. My first trial, murder.

    John Doe posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:26:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    Just take a pillow with you and a coin to flip during deliberations. It's all good.

    truthseekeriam posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:38:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    I was one who never took jury duty serious, I would find any excuse in the book not to do it.

    Not anymore!

    My child was molested by a fellow JW and thankfully 12 people just like the rest of us agreed that the dirt-bag should be sent away for a very long time and for them I'm so grateful ... unlike John Doe, it should never be joked about like a flip of a coin because many victims leave their lives are in the hands of 12 individuals that take time out of their busy lives to give back, and that's exactly how I look upon jury duty now.

    F beksbks posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:41:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    Heh, the judge is tough but cool. It's fun to watch him with people who are trying to get out of serving. Some people are so silly. There are two people that I would like to excuse myself, just so I don't have to deliberate with them. The only part that I'm really sorry about, is that it's murder, and I do not want to deal with any photos. Also, it's about 30 miles each way during rush hour. I'm taking BART, so it's costing me 9.00 a day, but I get paid 15.00!

    John Doe posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:44:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    If you get a flesh colored ipod, you can listen to an audio book to keep you awake.

    scotinsw posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:17:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    Anyone else see the irony thats JWs state they cannot judge another person but its perfectly acceptable to have their own kangaroo court.

    vilot posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:23:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    I was called to Federal Jury Duty 2 years ago I was on the first group to take the jury seats for questions from the judge and lawyers...The judge asked alot of questions then asked: "Does anyone for religions reasons feel they can not sit on a jury" I about fell out of my chair...

    WTWizard posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:09:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    As far as I have seen, the witlesses are allowed to sit on jury duty. I have myself been in twice (once while a faithful witless and once while a "I don't give a f***" witless). The first time I dogged it; the second, I never got picked. Additionally, I know other witlesses that have said "I don't think I can give them a fair trial" when on jury duty. One I know got seated on the jury, and found the person guilty of a drug "crime".

    Of course, that could all change if the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger realizes that people cannot be in jury duty and out in field circus at the same time. All it takes is some "new light" that jury duty is an act of worship, similar to saluting the flag or alternative military service (while it was not allowed), and people are going to be up s*** creek without a paddle if they get called into jury duty and cannot get out of it (especially if just showing up is the "act of worship").

    F snowbird posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:14:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    I've been called twice - once for circuit and once for Federal.

    I was cut from circuit because a lot of robberies were on docket, and I'd been robbed once before.

    When Federal found out I was a JW, I was exempted.

    Tee hee hee!

    Sylvia

    Deputy Dog posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:15:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    I used to hate the thought. Now I would love to but can't.

    F Frequent_Fader_Miles posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:15:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    I was chosen for jury duty once. I considered dodging, but later decided to go ahead with it. On the day of selection, there were so many people there that I thought ... well, fat chance of me being chosen. After all, they were only looking for nine people. Lo and behold! Would you believe my name was selected ninth?

    Wasn't such a bad experience in the long run. Wouldn't mind being chosen again, but my job renders me automatically exempt now.

    F snowbird posted Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:21:00 GMT(9/29/2009)

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    MOC....

    YKnot, what is the meaning?

    Now I would love to but can't.

    Why not, Deputy?

    Sylvia

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