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Jack Van Impe Ministries

    F truthlover posted Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:43:00 GMT(6/28/2009)

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    Does anyone know anything about this gent? See his program on tv with his wife and he can expound on over 14,000 scriptures.. he also speaks of the nearness of the "Lords Day" of Armageddon, of a final destruction.... is he in line with your thinking??

    F blondie posted Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:45:00 GMT(6/28/2009)

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    http://www.jvim.com/

    He has set dates in the past. He also ties in current events with "prophecy." She's cute and entertaining.

    F truthlover posted Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:48:00 GMT(6/28/2009)

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    Blondie:

    do u take him seriously or shouldone?

    F truthlover posted Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:48:00 GMT(6/28/2009)

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    He has a new cd on the Illuminati, freemasons, tie in with the antichrist, etc. sounds interesting

    M asilentone posted Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:50:00 GMT(6/28/2009)

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    no, I have seen his show many years ago, nothing came by his words.

    cameo-d posted Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:53:00 GMT(6/28/2009)

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    No. Do not take him seriously.

    He is pure propaganda.

    He depends on sensationalism and fear to make $$$.

    Just like all the rest of his ilk.

    (I have the secret. Send $5 and I will send you my book. The secret is in there.)

    Check out the scoop on him:

    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/jack_van_impe-video.htm

    There's plenty you can discern from in a search.

    here's another source:

    From : "Know Your Anti-christ..."

  • The surname “Van Impe” is a Dutch-Flemish name which is believed to be derived from the old German word “impfen,” or “to graft.” By the 1400s, it was common to use the word “imp” to refer to “a child,” but it was even more common a century later to use the word to refer to a “child from hell,” or, the “spawn of Satan.” These days, “imp” is generally accepted to mean “fiend,” “evil creature” or “small demon.”
  • (http://armageddoncocktailhour.wordpress.com/category/know-your-antichrist-candidates/)

    The Almighty Homer posted Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:20:00 GMT(6/28/2009)

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    He's just another religious charlton selling shit, American style.

    In recent times he's gotten on the end times marketing scheme , the same one the JWS have been using for a long time now.

    And along with the end times doctrine that he exploits for his products such as DVDs , Cd's and books.

    Religion can be turned into money if you do it right , here's a list of what some these ministries are pulling every year.

    Mind you too these are all tax free funds, no wonder you see these guys driving Mercedes and Rolls Royces

    and living in lavish homes.

    Ministry Name

    Revenue

    Top Exec.

    Exec. Compensation

    Global Evangelism Television (2)

    $17,736,492

    Pres. John C. Hagee

    $900,000

    Peter Popoff Ministries

    $9,634,015

    Pres. Peter Popoff

    $425,019

    Billy Graham Evangelistic Association

    $88,151,683

    Dir. & Chairman Billy Graham

    $423,364

    Trinity Christian Center of Santa Ana (TBN)

    $171,219,843

    Pres. & Dir. Paul F. Crouch, Sr.

    $403,700

    New Life Ministries

    $13,109,117

    CEO Stephen Arterburn

    $306,012

    In Touch Ministries (7)

    $59,265,064

    Pres. & Chairman Charles F. Stanley

    $300,000

    Christian Research Institute (3)

    $7,660,293

    Pres. Hank Hanegraaff

    $280,331

    Christian Broadcasting Network

    $171,944,698

    Pres. & Dir. Michael D. Little

    $271,158

    Ligonier Ministries

    $10,591,583

    Pres. Robert C. Sproul

    $221,576

    Thru the Bible Radio Network

    $18,030,924

    Dir. Andre Delgado

    $190,039

    Oral Roberts Evangelistic Association

    $11,079,039

    Pres. & CEO Richard Roberts

    $179,500

    Luis Palau Evangelistic Association

    $10,162,352

    Pres. Luis Palau

    $174,766

    Grace To You

    $9,623,796

    Pres. John F. MacArthur, Jr.

    $150,000

    Jack Van Impe Ministries International

    $10,118,350

    Pres. Jack Van Impe

    $144,974

    Insight for Living (1)

    $18,740,070

    Pres. Cynthia Swindoll

    $131,403

    Turning Point

    $15,112,591

    Pres. & CEO David P. Jeremiah

    $126,000

    Love Worth Finding

    $8,753,870

    Pres. Roland Maddox

    $108,528

    Coral Ridge Ministries

    $37,403,206

    Exec. VP Thomas Rogeberg

    $100,000

    Far East Broadcasting Company

    $9,941,165

    Pres. Jim R. Bowman

    $93,600

    Leading The Way with Dr. Michael Youssef (6)

    $12,004,842

    COO Joseph Morris

    $92,762

    Christ for all Nations

    $9,128,823

    Pres. Reinhard Bonnke

    $90,728

    The Good News Broadcasting Association

    $10,657,826

    Pres. Woodrow Kroll

    $90,000

    Eternal Word Television Network

    $31,114,106

    Pres. Michael Warsaw

    $83,772

    Cornerstone TeleVision

    $7,703,800

    CEO Charles R. Hembree

    $80,731

    Bible Broadcasting Network

    $11,977,201

    Pres. Lowell Davey

    $69,712

    Focus on the Family (5)

    $127,974,380

    Pres. James C. Dobson

    $0

    Family Stations (4)

    $14,220,138

    Pres. Harold Camping

    $0

    cameo-d posted Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:23:00 GMT(6/28/2009)

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    Excellent find, Almighty Homer!

    The Almighty Homer posted Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:24:00 GMT(6/28/2009)

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    Thanks Cameo

    thomas15 posted Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:09:00 GMT(6/29/2009)

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    While I'm not in any way trying to defend anyone other than myself, a brief critical analysis of the chart and comments of The Mighty Homer has to be made.

    First of all, myself and the lovely Mrs. thomas15 both work, both have college degrees and have been in the work force for many years, thomas15 (BS Degree) having been with the same company for 25 years and is the sales manager. Mrs. thomas15 has a Masters degree in education and is a teacher. While we likewise drive a Mercedes, our household income is higher than some of those in the informative chart provided by The Mighty Homer and Mercedes aside, we struggle just like everyone else to pay our bills and educate our kids. We are not living high on the hog , that's for sure.

    The last I heard about Billy Graham, he received a salary much lower than the chart shows and he is personally separated by a BOD from any money that comes into the ministry.

    Dr. Charles Stanley (In Touch) has written many books that sell well (in the millions of copies) and pastor of a church that has over 10,000 members, so 300K is probably way less than what he could probably receive. Dr. Stanley is past president of the Southern Baptist Convention.

    Dr. David P. Jeremiah- (Turning Point) same as Dr. Charles Stanley in almost every detail and is paid $126K, slightly more than thomas15 and Mrs. thomas15 make per year.

    Dr. Woodrow Kroll (Back to the Bible) same as Dr. Charles Stanley in almost every detail and is paid $90K, less than what thomas15 and Mrs. thomas15 make per year. Dr. Kroll was a professor of Theology at Liberty University.

    Dr. John MacArthur (Grace to You) same as Dr. Charles Stanely in almost every detail, has written hundreds of books, many million sellers, and is president of the Masters Seminary and is paid $150K

    Dr. Chuck Swindoll (Cynthia Swindall) (Insight for Living) same as Dr. Charles Stanley in almost every detail and is paid $131K, slightly more than thomas15 and Mrs. thomas15 make per year. Dr. Swindoll is past President of Dallas Theological Seminary.

    Dr. James Dobson (Focus on the Family) same as Dr. Stanley except he is not a seminary graduate, rather he is a child psychologist is paid $0.K

    The above are highly distinguished, well spoken and hard working, well respected. Many of them are legitimate theologians and have multiple advanced degrees from respected Universities. I think it is unfair to say or infer that that they are over compensated. The charge that they are getting rich selling and exploiting end times via books and other media is easy to make, difficult to show.

    Please note I'm not definding anyone on the chart and I'm not commenting on some of those in the chart because I suspect there is some truth in The Mighty Homers charge against them.

    Submitted in the spirit of fairness,

    thomas15

    Chalam posted Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:19:00 GMT(6/29/2009)

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    Hi,

    I used to watch his program. He has some interesting points. He loves God and His son, Jesus, that is what counts.

    On the negative side, IMHO he leans too much on his own understanding and "knowledge" and too little on the instruction of the Holy Spirit.

    There is far too much on the end times and not enough on grace and very little on the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Much better to focus on the later, that is where it is at.

    All the best,

    Stephen

    F blondie posted Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:27:00 GMT(6/29/2009)

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    I don't take him (or her seriously) but I find it interesting the similarities they have with the WTS. jws and the WTS like to think they are unique in this line of thought.

    M drew sagan posted Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:43:00 GMT(6/29/2009)

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    Anybody who watches those shows and thinks it about anything expect $$$ needs serious help

    thomas15 posted Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:10:00 GMT(6/29/2009)

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    To further beat the drums:

    CRI (Christian Reaserach Institute) Hank Hanegraaff President. This ministry was founded by the late Walter Martin and is leading the charge (from an Evangelical prespective) in exposing the Biblical errors of the WT.

    Ligonier Ministries- R.C.Sproul. Im personally not a big fan of Sproul but he is a theologian through and through. He also holds to preterism which is a teaching on the end times that has nothing dramatic happening at the end of this age. Hardly a position to hold if you want to make money selling end times media.

    Coral Ridge Ministries- founded by the late D. James Kennedy, this is a Presbyterian ministry that is A-MIL (I think) which doesn not hold to anything like the WT end times scenerio. It is a gospel ministry plain and simple.

    Thru the Bible Radio Network- founded by the late J. Vernon McGee, is also Presbyterian but Pre-Mil. The focus of the ministry is a running commentary of every verse of the Bible. Very little end times. A very good radio show, many have come to know Christ from listening to him.

    Family Stations-Harold Camping. The definition of a nutcase. His theology is very close to the WT, he probably gets some of his ideas from the WT.

    again, submitted in fairness,

    thomas15

    mindmelda posted Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:35:00 GMT(6/29/2009)

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    I've always found the JW antagonism towards fundamentalists amusing. It's not so much based on different doctrine, I think as it is as being rivals in the same "business". LOL

    JWs are using a technique given up on by even Avon to sell their religion, door to door direct sales. If they really want to rake in the big bucks, they're going to have to utilize televagelism and the internet. They have actually made small forays into those areas but their antagonism to anything new fangled (JWs are such Luddites..in the old Zion's Watchtower, they had articles raving about how that new telephone device was going to be the downfall of civilization, just like they do now about the internet) is holding them back from the really big money maker, TV.

    M drew sagan posted Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:41:00 GMT(6/29/2009)

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    CRI (Christian Reaserach Institute) Hank Hanegraaff President. This ministry was founded by the late Walter Martin and is leading the charge (from an Evangelical prespective) in exposing the Biblical errors of the WT.

    What exactly constitutes a "biblical error"?

    thomas15 posted Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:42:00 GMT(6/29/2009)

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    Blondie,

    I'm a little board right now so please allow me to comment. Jack Van Impe is a Dispensationalist (Pre-Millennium). I know very little about him and there is something about him that makes me uncomfortable. However, the larger question is one of theology. The end times is a small part of Dispensationalist teaching which is actually a method of interprating the entire Bible in a literal sense. An opposing theology is called Covanent theology. I will leave it up to you or anyone interested to further research the details.

    The WT holds some theology which seems simular to Dispensationalist so during a casual reading of (end times) it could be easy to compare them. But I can assure you or anyone else reading this that there are vast differences between what any legitimate Dispensationalist teaches and what the WT teaches. I'm not defending Jack Van Impe as I have little knowledge of him but I have been told by reliable sources that he is a legitimate Dispensationalist and he also has a lot of Bible verses memorized. He teaches things like the trinity, salvation by alone grace through faith alone, an inerrant Bible, you know, standard Evangelical things.

    yours truly,

    thomas15

    thomas15 posted Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:47:00 GMT(6/29/2009)

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    "What exactly constitutes a "biblical error"?"

    For example Drew, trying to say that the Cedarville get togethers in the 1930s are prophecy fufilled.

    F truthlover posted Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:49:00 GMT(6/29/2009)

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    thanks all for your insights -- I did order a cd on the "End" and have recd 3 letters since asking for donations.. so thats out

    The Almighty Homer posted Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:16:00 GMT(6/29/2009)

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    Umm...... commercializing the gospel for profit and wealth , if Jesus was here to day seeing all of this what do you suppose he would say?

    I know what those TV evangelists would say " Well you did die for are sins didn't you.....he he he ? " can we still get into everlasting Paradise ?

    will burn down are mansions and destroy are Mercedes we promise !

    I hope people will finally come to realize that TV evangelists and the JWS Corporation exploited the open and free religious market

    that the American government provided and opened for them and of course lets not forget the exploitation in the belief in the bible.

    Power and money does feel good ......umm umm umm

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