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BREAKING NEWS: WATCHTOWER IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS.

    Scott77 BREAKING NEWS: WATCHTOWER IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Fri, 29 May 2009 19:58:00 GMT (5/29/2009) edit



    Post 204 of 297
    Since 4/3/2009

    Hello,

     

    I have read today this quote from one member on facebook going by the name of Ruth Eeker.

    Based on her quote, she states that "as well in regards to the UN, the society has various name versions registered still in the UN. 
    So they are still not completely out of the supposed beast!"

    I do not know if her claim is true or not, please I invite our  valued  members here to verify that statement by contacting the UN if possible. If that allegation is proved to be true, its going to add a powerful  advocacy ammonition  at our arsenal as we fight this giant organisation to flee our entraped family members and friends.

    Thank you all.


    Scott77

    rebel8 Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Fri, 29 May 2009 20:00:00 GMT (5/29/2009) edit


    United States New York

    Post 6487 of 7105
    Since 1/13/2005

    Let her verify it.

    AllTimeJeff Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Fri, 29 May 2009 20:05:00 GMT (5/29/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 1442 of 3635
    Since 11/9/2006

    I think something more then a Facebook quote is needed here. All she has to do is call the UN and ask for a list of who is an NGO.

    MidwichCuckoo Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Fri, 29 May 2009 20:22:00 GMT (5/29/2009) edit


    United Kingdom England, Worcestershire

    Post 2404 of 2552
    Since 4/25/2005

    The name ... (T)RUTH (S)EEKER ?

    Scott77 Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Fri, 29 May 2009 20:22:00 GMT (5/29/2009) edit



    Post 205 of 297
    Since 4/3/2009

    Please,

    click on this facebook link and stroll down to the last person going with name of Ruth Eeker.

    http://www.facebook.com/wall.php?id=2244174673&page=10&hash=2d0692228befb5654191d745d07a9bb4

    Yes, you are right, need to get a list of registered NGO members to make sure who is that. Iam gonna relay that information to her.  Rebel8, Iam going to ask her via email.

     

    Thanks

     

    Scott77

    judge rutherFRAUD Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Fri, 29 May 2009 22:14:00 GMT (5/29/2009) edit



    Post 14 of 48
    Since 4/7/2009

    yes the wts is still in the u.n.  under names like africare,  porguese cong of jw's etc.  I may have the names wrong since i haven't researched this a a year or 2

    Pistoff Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Fri, 29 May 2009 22:44:00 GMT (5/29/2009) edit




    Post 1598 of 1780
    Since 7/8/2002

    NO WAY they are Africare; check the stats:

     

    http://www.africare.org/

    MadGiant Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Fri, 29 May 2009 23:13:00 GMT (5/29/2009) edit


    Puerto Rico

    Post 168 of 213
    Since 8/2/2008

    I did a search on “portuguese song of jw's” and I got nothing. Then I typed the name exactly as you wrote it “porguese cong of jw's” and found this site:

    https://www.help.co.uk/charitable_activities.html?page=146

    THE PRACTICE AND ADVANCEMENT OF CHRISTIANITY FOUNDED ON THE HOLY BIBLE, AS UNDERSTOOD BY THE DENOMINATION OF CHRISTIANS KNOWN AS JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, INCLUDING THE PREACHING OF THE GOOD NEWS OF GOD'S KINGDOM BY JESUS CHRIST WITHIN THE CONGREGATION ARE0001, A AND THE HOLDING OF MEETINGS.

     

    Registered Charity No. 1066263

     

    Would somebody help me with this? I don’t understand

    Take care,

    Ismael

     

    Edit to add: Looks like they are asking for money to print more bibles. No food, clothing, medicine, education. I don’t understand

    TheJigsUp Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Sat, 30 May 2009 00:23:00 GMT (5/30/2009) edit



    Post 1 of 5
    Since 5/29/2009

    http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2007/09/26586_en.pdf

    it is an osce document.

    if you scroll quite a way down the page to page 44 you will begin upon the list of ngo's.

    i'd like to draw your attention the numbers 10, 93, 94, 243, and 328. you will see that different arms of the Watchtower bible and tract society have still been acting as ngo's even as late as 2007.

     

     

     

    mann377 Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Sat, 30 May 2009 00:48:00 GMT (5/30/2009) edit




    Post 215 of 216
    Since 7/19/2002

    Amazing!......Thanks jigsup.

    Just goes to show what a devious organization the WTBTS is.  The sad thing is that the loyal ones will not believe this.

    BabaYaga Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Sat, 30 May 2009 00:58:00 GMT (5/30/2009) edit




    Post 2886 of 3628
    Since 8/30/2006

    UNBELIEVABLE!!! JigsUp, thank you SO much for this info... and here is the URL as an active link:

    http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2007/09/26586_en.pdf

    It is an 87 page document, people, but here are two highlights, cut and pasted verbatim:

    Page 73:

    243 Office of General Counsel for Jehovah's Witnesses
    100 Watchtower Drive; Patterson, NY 12563; U.S.A.
    Mr. Gregory ALLEN
    Associate General Counsel
    E-mail: generalcounsel@jw.org
    Tel: +1-845-306 07 11
    Fax: +1-845-306 07 09

    Page 83:

    328 Watchtower Bible and Tract Society - Poland
    ul. Warszawska 14; 05-830 Nadarzyn; Poland
    Mr. Michal HOSZOWSKI
    Public Information Desk Coordinator
    E-mail: pad@wtbts.org.pl
    Tel: +48-608 575 000
    Fax: +48-22-739 19 97

    ~~~

    I am truly stunned.

    BabaYaga Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Sat, 30 May 2009 01:04:00 GMT (5/30/2009) edit




    Post 2887 of 3628
    Since 8/30/2006

    Oh good lord, I found more... (went searching the ones Jig mentioned)

    Page 45:

    10 Administrative Centre of Jehovah's Witnesses, Russia
    ul. Srednyaya, bldg. 6, pos. Solnechnoye; 197739 St. Petersburg; Russian Federation
    Web site: http://www.jw-media.org
    Mr. Sergey CHEREPANOV
    Deputy Chairman
    E-mail: sergey.cherepanov@gmail.com
    Tel: +7-911-238 88 93
    Fax: +7-812-437 09 70

    Page 54:

    93 European Association of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses
    Rue d'Argile, 60; B-1950 Kraainem; Belgium
    Web site: http://www.jw-media.org
    Mr. Marcel GILLET
    Chairman of the Religious Freedom Subcommittee
    E-mail: jwitnesses@skynet.be
    Tel: +32-2-782 00 15; 785 08 13
    Fax: +32-2-782 05 92
    Mr. Paul GILLIES
    Press Officer
    E-mail: paul.gillies@bigfoot.com
    Tel: +44-208-906 22 11
    Fax: +44-208-906 39 38

    Page 55:

    94 European Association of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses
    IBSA House, The Ridgeway; London NW7 1RN; United Kingdom
    Mr. Marc HANSEN
    Counsel for Religious Freedom
    E-mail: jwitnesses@skynet.be
    Tel: +32-2-782 00 15

    restrangled Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Sat, 30 May 2009 01:14:00 GMT (5/30/2009) edit




    Post 5153 of 5892
    Since 6/10/2006

    Here is another as far as I can tell....Ooops babayaga already had this covered.

    328

     

    Watchtower Bible and Tract Society - Poland

    ul. Warszawska 14; 05-830 Nadarzyn; Poland

    Mr. Michal HOSZOWSKI

    Public Information Desk Coordinator

    E-mail: pad@wtbts.org.pl

    Tel: +48-608 575 000

    Fax: +48-22-739 19 97

    TheJigsUp Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Sat, 30 May 2009 01:32:00 GMT (5/30/2009) edit



    Post 2 of 5
    Since 5/29/2009

    Scroll down to September 26, 2007, Room #2, from 13:00-15:00 hours.
    http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2007/07/25609_en.pdf

    Scott77 Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Sat, 30 May 2009 01:35:00 GMT (5/30/2009) edit



    Post 208 of 297
    Since 4/3/2009

    wow, new information and good website links.  Thank you guys and gals. Just wondering, is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society still  an officially registered member of UN not in NY but in other countries? yes or no?

     

    Scott77

    Black Sheep Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Sat, 30 May 2009 01:38:00 GMT (5/30/2009) edit


    New Zealand

    Post 2359 of 3688
    Since 8/8/2003

    My local football club is a non-governmental organisation.  That doesn't mean it is affiliated to the UN.

    Even if it sat on a UN advisory panel, that still wouldn't make it a member.

     

    What you need is evidence of membership of the UN.

    You won't find it.  They have already been burnt once.

    They are not stupid enough to do it again.

    BabaYaga Re: WBTS IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Sat, 30 May 2009 01:38:00 GMT (5/30/2009) edit




    Post 2888 of 3628
    Since 8/30/2006

    MORE RECENT DOCUMENT:  This is the participant list from just seven months ago, people! 

    http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2008/10/34254_en.pdf


    Warsaw, 29 September – 10 October 2008

    Not only that, but this one is the FINAL LIST OF PARTICIPANTS, not the one subject to correction!


    Page 41:

    14 Administrative Centre of Jehovah's Witnesses, Russia
    ul. Srednyaya, bldg. 6, pos. Solnechnoye; 197739 St. Petersburg; Russian Federation
    Website: www.jw-media.org
    Mr. Sergey CHEREPANOV
    Deputy Chairman
    E-mail: jwinform.ru@gmail.com
    Tel: +7-812-432-95-50
    Fax: +7-812-432-40-70

    Page 49:

    102 European Association of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses
    Rue d'Argile, 60; B-1950 Kraainem; Belgium
    Website: http://www.jw-media.org
    Mr. Marcel GILLET
    Chairman of the Religious Freedom Subcommittee
    E-mail: jwitnesses@skynet.be
    Tel: +32-2-782 00 15; 785 08 13
    Fax: +32-2-782 05 92
    Mr. Paul GILLIES
    Press Officer
    E-mail: paul.gillies@bigfoot.com
    Tel: +44-208-906 22 11
    Fax: +44-208-906 39 38

    Page 63:

    238 Office of General Counsel for Jehovah's Witnesses
    100 Watchtower Drive; Patterson, NY 12563; U.S.A.
    Mr. Gregory OLDS
    Associate General Counsel
    E-mail: generalcounsel@jw.org
    Tel: +1-845-306 07 11
    Fax: +1-845-306 07 09

    Page 65:

    261 Religious Center of Jehovah's Witnesses in the Republic of Kazakhstan
    187 Auezova Street, Kalkaman-2; 050006 Almaty; Kazakhstan
    Mr. Polat BEKZHAN
    Representative
    E-mail: officeinbox@kz.jw.org
    Tel: +7-2372-26 33 63

    Page 71:

    319 Watchtower Bible and Tract Society - Poland
    ul. Warszawska 1 4; 05-830 Nadarzyn; Poland
    Mr. Tomasz WOLCZKO
    Legal Counsel
    E-mail: prawny@jw.org.pl
    Tel: +48-608-55 50 95

    coffee_black Re: BREAKING NEWS: WATCHTOWER IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Sat, 30 May 2009 02:03:00 GMT (5/30/2009) edit


    United States Massachusetts

    Post 1960 of 2264
    Since 2/6/2002

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSCE   I didn't know what the OSCE was...it's an arm of the UN.

    The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) is the world's largest security-oriented intergovernmental organization. Its mandate includes issues such as arms control, human rights, freedom of the press, and fair elections. Most of its 3,500-plus staff are engaged in field operations, with only around 10% in its headquarters.

    The OSCE is an ad hoc organization under the United Nations Charter (Chap. VIII), and is concerned with early warning, conflict prevention, crisis management and post-conflict rehabilitation. Its 56 participating States are from Europe, the Caucasus, Central Asia and North America and cover most of the northern hemisphere. It was created during the Cold War era as an East-West forum.

    It does look like they are still at it.

    ****

    Black Sheep wrote

    You won't find it.  They have already been burnt once.

    They are not stupid enough to do it again.

    I think they are arrogant enough to think they can get away with it... they think the rank and file are naieve enough to believe anything they say.

    Coffee

    Scott77 Re: BREAKING NEWS: WATCHTOWER IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Sat, 30 May 2009 02:12:00 GMT (5/30/2009) edit



    Post 209 of 297
    Since 4/3/2009

    Black Sheep,

    Let me tell ya, the Watchower is a both Macro and micro-managed world organisation. Therefore, its participation in those meetings as par the above websites courtsey of BabaYaga regardless of their nature amount to a silent endorsement of its polical programs no matter what the country is located. I do not know if you are fully aware of the devastating effects Watchtower policies and practices on the lives of JWs in the recepient countries of Malawi and Mexico.

     

    Scott77

    TheJigsUp Re: BREAKING NEWS: WATCHTOWER IS STILL A MEMBER OF UN- SOURCE SAYS. posted Sat, 30 May 2009 02:15:00 GMT (5/30/2009) edit



    Post 3 of 5
    Since 5/29/2009

    I cant take the credit for this, I'm just the messenger.

     

    I originally found the info here...

    ---------------------------------

    http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=10&t=853

    Posted by: Peter Nov 25 2007, 05:13 PM...

    ---------------------------------

    I phoned London Bethel Regarding the first OSCE conference and i was initially lied to.

    I recorded the conversation, and told the 'brother' I spoke to that I had recorded our conversation, But not before I had been lied to.

    I still have the recording.

    I also tried To contact the journalist who wrote the original story covering the U.N. affiliation, his secretary gave me his mobile number and I phoned him.

    He was on holiday and said he would get back in touch with me but he never did, so i left the matter alone.

    I was told that it was not unusual for them to become an NGO for the day in order to sit in on these meetings.

    He also denied knowledge of Mr Marc Hansen, to which i responded that he might want to check the matter out, because if Mr Hansen wasn't a bethel member then someone must be parading as one under false pretences.

    I believe it was then that he asked me 'What's wrong with being an NGO?'

    I also recieved a letter regarding our conversation.

    When i saw this post my heart started pounding...

    I thought this was also common knowledge... Obviously not.

    So I broke silence.

     

    Edit...   I often think 2Thess 2: is talking about people like them.

     

     

     

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