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The JW Dress Code

    M sacolton posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:36:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 1788 of 3551
    Joined 2/12/2008

    For the Brothers ...

  • Suit jacket and pants must always match as part of a complete suit.
  • Sport jacket and slacks not permitted.
  • Shoes must be polished (I had to go home and change shoes once).
  • Shirt should be white or close to white (i.e. no dark colored dress shirts).
  • Do not wear bright colored suits or suits with more than one color (not including pin stripes).
  • Tie should not be bright colored or have too many colors.
  • Pants should have cuffs (this was recommended, not a rule).
  • Suit jacket must be buttoned up at all times (although you may wait until you begin speaking to button up your jacket).
  • Never put your hand in your pocket, even for one second.
  • Legs must be close together (his exact words were "do not have a HORSE stance").
  • Heels must be together but toes should be slightly apart
  • If you are holding a microphone, the microphone must be point just above the chin, not at the mouth.
  • If you are holding a microphone, do NOT put the other hand in your pocket (I cannot stress this enough, they WILL get you for this).
  • Do not lean on the lectern (podium, pulpit).
  • Whew! Strict dress-code guidelines straight from the Presiding Overseer. Jah loves the neat and tidy. This is more of a "Society Club" than a Christian Congregation.

    Anyone have the dress-code guidelines for the Sisters?

    M sacolton posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:39:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 1789 of 3551
    Joined 2/12/2008

    James 2: 1-4 (NWT)1 My brothers, YOU are not holding the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, our glory, with acts of favoritism, are YOU? 2 For, if a man with gold rings on his fingers and in splendid clothing enters into a gathering of YOU, but a poor [man] in filthy clothing also enters, 3 yet YOU look with favor upon the one wearing the splendid clothing and say: “You take this seat here in a fine place,” and YOU say to the poor one: “You keep standing,” or: “Take that seat there under my footstool,” 4 YOU have class distinctions among yourselves and YOU have become judges rendering wicked decisions, is that not so?

    Now, when I went to the Methodist church, men and women were allowed to dress however they wanted. Men with sweaters, jeans, tennis shoes, etc. It didn't matter. God looks at our HEARTS ... not at the $1,000 suit you wear.

    M sir82 posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:47:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 2404 of 8751
    Joined 5/17/2005
    God looks at our HEARTS ... not at the $1,000 suit you wear.

    Clearly you haven't been in a Kingdom Hall for quite some time...the sum total cost of all the suits of those in attendance would not exceed $1000!

    M wobble posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:56:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 313 of 5745
    Joined 2/20/2008

    I suppose I was "lucky" to be in a tolerant hill-billy type country congo. When I arrived in 1970 the Cong Servant congratulated me for wearing a tie,as prior to his arrival some months before me,even on the platform,nobody bothered.

    It was a muddy boots and coats tied up with string congo.This laid back attitude continued,for years I gave Public Talks etc. and did not OWN a suit.During the years 1975 to 1988 I wore a beard,for many of those years giving PT's and serving as a Min. Serv.

    I was never counselled about this.

    I think being in this kind of Congo.though great compared to other local congos run by Nazis,delayed my waking up until last year,2007.

    Their present dress code makes them really weird,how different from Our Lord Jesus,bearded and sandelled he just melted into the crowd,he was not "identified by the way he dressed" as Witlesses are.(Today Jesus would not be allowed to visit Bet-hell if he dressed in the worldly way as was his custom)

    Love

    Wobble

    F QuestioningEverything posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:01:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 74 of 606
    Joined 6/17/2008

    Sister's have to wear skirts/dresses that come below the knee. If they sit down and the knee is showing that is inappropriate. Didn't work for me because I have nice legs and love to show them off. My skirts were not tight or indecent, just a little shorter than was required.

    Also, no V-neck shirts/sweaters, etc that would show your cleavage.

    WTWizard posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:03:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 6353 of 14867
    Joined 5/10/2007

    Hint: The "sisters" are not allowed to wear pants, even dress slacks made for ladies. They are supposed to wear heels that are moderate in height, polished, and "not excessive" jewelry and makeup (I suppose that allowed the hounders to be picky when they saw fit).

    Also, they are supposed to have their dresses of "reasonable" length. What they call "reasonable" means whatever is nearly impossible to get at the time. Too long is as bad as too short, so you couldn't just err on going too long. And don't forget the nylon stockings, even in the hottest Florida weather.

    Yes, I cheated and got this information from this forum during the course of different years. Enforcement will vary in your local congregation.

    M iceguy posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:26:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 192 of 344
    Joined 5/13/2008

    questioningeverything I would like to thank you for not covering up your nice legs. As a former "Brother" I would have appreciated that you did not follow that rule if we were in the same congregation.

    M Quirky1 posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:32:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 1856 of 3628
    Joined 3/13/2008
    Didn't work for me because I have nice legs and love to show them off. My skirts were not tight or indecent, just a little shorter than was required.

    Also, no V-neck shirts/sweaters, etc that would show your cleavage.

    Grrrrrr.....

    F blondie posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:43:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 25670 of 37167
    Joined 5/28/2001

    This is one of those things that tend to vary from congregation to congregation, but are more consistent at the circuit or district level.

  • Suit jacket and pants must always match as part of a complete suit.
  • Sport jacket and slacks not permitted.
  • Shoes must be polished (I had to go home and change shoes once).
  • Shirt should be white or close to white (i.e. no dark colored dress shirts).
  • Do not wear bright colored suits or suits with more than one color (not including pin stripes).
  • Tie should not be bright colored or have too many colors.
  • Pants should have cuffs (this was recommended, not a rule).
  • Suit jacket must be buttoned up at all times (although you may wait until you begin speaking to button up your jacket).
  • Never put your hand in your pocket, even for one second.
  • Legs must be close together (his exact words were "do not have a HORSE stance").
  • Heels must be together but toes should be slightly apart
  • If you are holding a microphone, the microphone must be point just above the chin, not at the mouth.
  • If you are holding a microphone, do NOT put the other hand in your pocket (I cannot stress this enough, they WILL get you for this).
  • Do not lean on the lectern (podium, pulpit).
  • The highlighted ones were never required in all the 20 congregations I have attended. In fact one elder's son wore a shiny purple suit on a regular basis doing mikes and giving talks on the platform.

    I can remember one CO insisting that all brothers on the platform had to wear black wingtips...........the PO showed up with brown

    Dexter 1957 Seabrook Casual for Men Image

    M Witness 007 posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:58:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 2802 of 5434
    Joined 8/28/2007

    A sister in our cong. around 40-50 years old a bit rough....came to the meeting straight from work so she just put a skirt on over her trousers.....

    M Quirky1 posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:22:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 1857 of 3628
    Joined 3/13/2008

    Blondie,

    Your highlighted points exclude half of all the witless that I knew in the KH.

    Farkel posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 7961 of 11743
    Joined 3/14/2001

    :Suit jacket and pants must always match as part of a complete suit.
    :Sport jacket and slacks not permitted.
    :Shoes must be polished (I had to go home and change shoes once).
    :Shirt should be white or close to white (i.e. no dark colored dress shirts).
    :Do not wear bright colored suits or suits with more than one color (not including pin stripes).
    :Tie should not be bright colored or have too many colors.
    :Pants should have cuffs (this was recommended, not a rule).
    :Suit jacket must be buttoned up at all times (although you may wait until you begin speaking to button up your jacket).
    :Never put your hand in your pocket, even for one second.
    :Legs must be close together (his exact words were "do not have a HORSE stance").
    :Heels must be together but toes should be slightly apart
    :If you are holding a microphone, the microphone must be point just above the chin, not at the mouth.
    :If you are holding a microphone, do NOT put the other hand in your pocket (I cannot stress this enough, they WILL get you for this).
    :Do not lean on the lectern (podium, pulpit).

    There is a term for this. It is called "True Christian Freedom(tm)."

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Farkel

    M Quentin posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:01:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 1415 of 2586
    Joined 4/2/2005

    Don't remember any kind of dress code as that....spot jackets and slacks were ok...colored shirts as well...of course I'm pre 1972 with regular meeting attendence...how things change...

    M Homerovah the Almighty posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:46:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 3037 of 4027
    Joined 8/30/2007

    Dress code 105 b : and woman should wear crotchless panties when giving talks and up on stage

    M undercover posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:05:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 5741 of 13132
    Joined 9/25/2002

  • Suit jacket and pants must always match as part of a complete suit.
  • Only for the Public Talk speaker and WT conductor.

  • Sport jacket and slacks not permitted.
  • See above.

  • Shoes must be polished (I had to go home and change shoes once).
  • I never saw anyone counseled one-on-one about this though I do remember them reminding us from time to time from the platform

  • Shirt should be white or close to white (i.e. no dark colored dress shirts).
  • This wasn't a problem in my area. I wore dark shirts all the time, even black. Well, the last few years anyway. It was a rule in the 70s in one congregation

  • Do not wear bright colored suits or suits with more than one color (not including pin stripes).
  • What about seersucker suits. I knew some old brothers who loved their blue seersucker suits in the summer. I remember seeing godawful ugly plaid jackets back in the 70s. Doesn't semm to have been an issue in my area

  • Tie should not be bright colored or have too many colors.
  • I did counseled a few times on my ties...but I did push the boundries. I figured if I had to wear the damn thing, I was gonna have fun with it.

  • Pants should have cuffs (this was recommended, not a rule).
  • Never heard that one. I had some that were cuffed, some that weren't

  • Suit jacket must be buttoned up at all times (although you may wait until you begin speaking to button up your jacket).
  • Never heard that one either. I never buttoned my jacket, even during talks

  • Never put your hand in your pocket, even for one second.
  • I'm assuming that this is during the talk. It seems that the school guidebook counseled against hands in pockets

  • Legs must be close together (his exact words were "do not have a HORSE stance").
  • Never heard that one

  • Heels must be together but toes should be slightly apart
  • Never heard that one either

  • If you are holding a microphone, the microphone must be point just above the chin, not at the mouth.
  • Every congregation had it's own microphone nazi...

  • If you are holding a microphone, do NOT put the other hand in your pocket (I cannot stress this enough, they WILL get you for this).
  • I used to do it, never got called on it

  • Do not lean on the lectern (podium, pulpit).
  • I know that it would probably bring counsel to us younger guys, but I knew some old time elders that leaned on it all the time and no one dared tell them not to

    M Homerovah the Almighty posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:43:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 3040 of 4027
    Joined 8/30/2007

    Dress code 108 a. and no T-shirts that have a Tuxedo printed on the front are to worn while giving a talk

    minimus posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:54:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 25683 of 36165
    Joined 7/3/2002

    I believe a lot of those instructions were from the Qualified To Be Ministers book and a publication before that one in the 50s. How to stand, hold the mike, etc.....The other things were his opinion that he enforced.

    M jws posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:25:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 756 of 1451
    Joined 5/13/2002

    I remember a story my dad used to tell of one of his old-timer friends doing field service in the south in the late 1960's early 70's. The weather was probably in the 80's or 90's and this was before air conditioning was common in cars. Yet this guy insisted on wearing the jacket of his suit. Said "he was a minister of God" to justify it. Cut forward to the mid 1980's. This guy is in Florida with a book study meeting at his house. He's wearing a Hawaiian shirt, open at the top.

    If it's 100+ degrees out and I see a guy walking from door to door in a full suit, I know there's something wrong with him. How can you take him seriously?

    I don't remember so many rules back in the 70's and 80's. We went to a kind of blue collar congregation though. I got away without a suit until my teenage years, then was required to wear one to the meetings at the KH by my parents (bookstudies were more relaxed). I saw sport coats and pinstripes. I don't remember any conditions on colors. Times have probably changed. Or it just varies by area.

    When my wife and I were church shopping, I never wore a suit. I did wear the same type of business casual I'd wear to work (khaki pants, polo shirt). I figured if they want me any more dressed up, I was crossing them off my list.

    M watson posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:29:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 1742 of 4356
    Joined 3/17/2005
    Didn't work for me because I have nice legs and love to show them off. My skirts were not tight or indecent, just a little shorter than was required.

    It's not right to make a bold statement like this without some evidence.

    M Homerovah the Almighty posted Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:42:00 GMT(12/15/2008)

    Post 3045 of 4027
    Joined 8/30/2007

    Dress code 143 c. men should not have hair over their ears of any length for its a sign of immorality,

    We know God created man to have hair that grows but we do carry any respect by him for that decision

    Hence men should have a similar hair style as Howdy Doody

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