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List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
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I posted this a few years ago, before the Society created the Christian Congregaton of Jehovah's Witnesses, Inc., Kingdom Services, Inc., etc. in their Oct. 2000 meeting. However, much of this is still true and useful: SOME OF THESE WILL SURPRISE YOU: I have captured nearly all Watchtower Society corporations in the United States. I have placed those of greatest interest at the top. I have Bolded those that are unique. But, those following are still of importance. I also have access to the financial reports of many of the more important ones. IMPORTANT NOTE: All of these are separately “registered” Watchtower corporations and “not” local congregations, and have “slightly different name” designations. When a corporation registers with a state, their corporate name must be EXACT ... and any slight changes, SUCH AS ABBREVIATIONS, MISPELLINGS, CAPITALIZATIONS, PERIODS, AND COMMAS ARE IMPORTANT and are made part of that exact corporate name. There is a legal purpose for this. Many of these “at the end” show up as Kingdom Halls, but that is because they use a Kingdom Hall for a Branch or Special operation. When a Congregation or Kingdom Hall is named as “DBA” it is being used by the Watchtower Society for additional purposes, such as Conventions, distribution centers or other legal needs. It has taken me a long time to compile this. It may be shared with any lawyer that is involved in lawsuit against the Watchtower Society so that they can more quickly get the court to make Citations of Discovery of Assets: GENERAL NY CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS, SUBSIDARIES, SPECIAL OPERATIONS: Watchtower Bible & Tract Society (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Buffalo, NY Headquarters ADDRESSES OF KEY OPERATIONS: I now have access to the "complete or partially complete" reports on the Society's businesses, suppliers, credit, and background of the following Watchtower related corporations. Some of these seem like duplicates, but they "may" represent various operations and subsidiaries, such as printing factories, or shipping operations. Some of them, I do not yet know what their specific purpose is. The Watchtower Society has so many corporations that it is hard to track it all ... and I just don't have the time to keep tracking all of this information:Mountainbrook Ltd Partnership (dba "Watchtower Educ Ctr") Patterson, NY Headquarters Watchtower (dba "Kingdom Farms") Lansing, NY (There are also other Kingdom Farms in Florida and Colorado, but I have not listed them at this time) Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc Brooklyn, NY Headquarters Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Watchtower Health Care Sup") Brooklyn, NY Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Construction Division") Brooklyn, NY Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Watchtower Farm") Wallkill, NY Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Bossert Hotel") Brooklyn, NY Branch Watchtower Bible And Clergy, The (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Fortuna, CA (I love this one) Watchtower Associates Ltd Woodbury, NYWatchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Pennsylvania, PA Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Pennsylvania Brooklyn, NY (Headquarters) Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Pennsylvania (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Trafford, PA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Pennsylvania (dba "Kingdom Hall Jhovahs Witnesses") Clinton, IL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Pennsylvania (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Mattituck, NY Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Pennsylvania (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses," "Kingdom Hall Jehovah Witnesses," "Kingdom Hall Inc") Fort Payne, AL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Pennsylvania (dba "Lakeview Congrg Of Jehovahs W") Stanton, MI Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Pennsylvania (dba "Kingdom Hall Jhovahs Witnesses") Lake Ariel, PA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Pennsylvania (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Sun City, AZ Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Pennsylvania Brooklyn, NY Branch
STATE BRANCHES or SPECIAL OPERATIONS IN STATES: Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc Brooklyn, NY Branch Jehovah's Witnesses Crown Point (Inc) (dba "Watchtower Society") Crown Point, IN Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Emmett, ID Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Hernando, FL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Clearfield, PA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses Brklyn") Brooklyn, NY Branch Watchtower Society (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Cleveland, OH Watchtower And Bible Society (Inc) (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses W S Spanish") Ocala, FL Watchtower Bb Tract Soc Of Ny Jasper, GA Branch Watchtower Bb Tract Soc Of Ny (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Libby, MT Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Baker, MT Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witness Lake Mangoni") West Palm Beach, FL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc Saint Paul, MN Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses(Inc)") Ashland, WI Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Charlotte, MI Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc West Palm Beach, FL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") El Toro, CA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Bishop, CA Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Soquel, CA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Fort Myers, FL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Toms River, NJ Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc Pottstown, PA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Yakima, WA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Bemidji, MN Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Clarkesville, GA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") West Des Moines, IA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses-Mont") Montgomery, TX Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc Knoxville, TN Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Crystal Lake, IL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Watchtower Bible And Track") Tijeras, NM Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc Memphis, TN Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses," "Jehovah S Witnesses") Honolulu, HI Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc Anchorage, AK Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Portland, OR Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc Cleveland, OH Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc Saraland, AL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses," "Jehovah S Witnesses") Reedley, CA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Austell, GA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc Conyers, GA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Sandusky, OH Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovah Witnesses East") De Leon Springs, FL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc Yerington, NV Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") San Antonio, TX Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovah Witnesses") Denver, CO Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses Sandusky") Sandusky, MI Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") San Antonio, TX Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Vancouver, WA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Dowagiac, MI Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Brookville, PA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc Boynton Beach, FL Branch Watchtower Bible And Trackt Society (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses Bandera Soc") Bandera, TX Watchtower Bible And Tract Society Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Springfield, MA Watchtower Bible Society Of Pa (Inc) (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses Hillsboro") Hillsboro, TX Watchtower Bible Trac Society (Inc) (dba "Jehovahs Wtnesses Kingdom Hall") Kent, OH Watchtower Bible Tract Of Pennsalvania (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Pottsville, PA Watchtower Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") San Jose, CA Watchtower Society (Inc), The (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Plano, TX Wheaton Congrg Of Jehovah Inc (dba "Watchtower Bible And Track Soc") Wheaton, MN SPECIAL OPERATIONS BRANCHES USING KINGDOM HALLS: Jehovah’s Witnesses Kingdom Hall (dba "Watchtower Bible & Tract Soc") Metuchen, NJ Watchtower Society (dba "Kingdom Hall," "Jehovah's Witnesses") Phoenix, AZ Kingdom Hall Of Jehovah's Witnesses (dba "Watchtower The," "Jehovah's Witnesses") BELFAIR, WA Watchtower Bible & Tract Society (dba "Jehovahs Wtnesses Kingdom Hall") Laurel, MD Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York (dba "Kingdom Hall Jhovahs Witnesses," "Jehovah's Witnesses") Lompoc, CA Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses Kingdom Hall") Yukon, OK Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Jehovahs Witness") Mc Cormick, SC Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Cortez Cngrgtion Jhvah Wttness") Cortez, CO Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Of Jehovahs") Woodward, OK Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Jhovahs Witnesses") Levelland, TX Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses-Folsom") El Dorado Hills, CA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Jehovahs Witness," "Kingdom Hall Jehovah S Witness") Wauchula, FL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witness Kingdom Hall") Durango, CO Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Elk Rapids Congrtn Jehova") Kewadin, MI Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Columbus Cngrgtn Jehovahs") Lynn, NC Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Wtness S Congregation") Live Oak, FL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Congregation Of Jenovahs") Lake Wales, FL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Winterpock Congregation") Chesterfield, VA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Of Jhvahs Wtness") Lindsay, CA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Of Jhvahs Wtness") Minneapolis, MN Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Of Jehovahs," "Kingdom Hall Of Jehovah S") Gallup, NM Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall," "Jehovah's Witnesses") Palestine, TX Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Jhovahs Witnesses") Maquoketa, IA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Jehovahs Witness") KYLE, TX Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Watch Tower Bible Track Soc Ny," "Kingdom Hall") NAPA, CA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Wtnesses Kingdom Hall") Alhambra, CA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Jhovahs Witnesses") Norfolk, VA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Jehovah Witness") Atoka, OK Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovahs Wtnesses Kingdom Hall") Orlando, FL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Jhovahs Witnesses") Saint Edward, NE Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Jhovahs Witnesses") Wahoo, NE Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Jhovahs Witnesses") Spring Hill, FL Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdom Hall Jhovahs Witnesses") Schoharie, NY Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Jehovah S Witness Kingdom Hall") North Wilkesboro, NC Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Northwest Cong Jehovahs," "Jehovah's Witnesses") Nashville, TN Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of New York Inc (dba "Kingdomhall Jehovahs Witnesses") Scottsville, VA Branch Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Ny Inc (dba "Jehovahs Witnesses") Klamath Falls, OR Watchtower Bible & Tract Society Of Pennsylvania (dba "Jeovahs Witnesses Kingdom Hall") Buford, GA Branch Watchtower Bible Tract Society (dba "Kingdom Hall," "Jehovah's Witnesses") Hart, MI Single Watchtower Corp (dba "Jehovahs Wtnesses Kingdom Hall") Macon, GA I hope that you enjoy the list ... add to it if you can ... and most of all, feel free to distribute it ... and credit the source. 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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
posted Fri, 20 Apr 2007 03:34:00 GMT
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![]() MissouriPost 3067 of 5923 Since 4/29/2005 |
what's the difference between special operations and special branches? some of those listed are like just normal kingdom halls, right?
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
posted Fri, 20 Apr 2007 03:37:00 GMT
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Crazyblond, what's the difference between special operations and special branches? some of those listed are like just normal kingdom halls, right? I explained this above in my opening notations ... they are not normal Kingdom Halls, as these would have their own corporate names and cannot use the Society's corporate names. The Watchtower Society is rather fussy about a local congregation or Kingdom Hall usings its corporate name and would direct the congregation to cease if it did so. For example: a local congregation in Arlington Heights, Illinois might simply be called the North Arlington Heights Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, Inc. It would be a separate Illinois corporation. But, if the Society wanted to use their Kingdom Hall for a local operation or state branch, and for mailing purposes, it would form the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York Inc, dba Arlington Heights Kingdom Hall ... or something along those lines. The Society eithers sets up branches, special operations or reincorporates in each state. I have another list, and will add it one day when I get around to it. Jim Whitney |
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
posted Fri, 20 Apr 2007 03:44:00 GMT
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We appreciate all the hard work. Thanks for posting this info!!! Swalker |
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
posted Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:19:00 GMT
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![]() EnglandPost 9733 of 12690 Since 4/9/2004 |
I also appreciate the extensive research you had to carry out to gather all this information. I wonder why does the WTS have so many corporation. Why so many? Could something fishy be going on with this? I am not into economics or law but by seeing these figures what I get is the impression that the dubs are dealing with a business, and a very big business at that, and not a religion. The WTS has more in common with McDonalds rather than the early Church which they supposedly faithfully copy. It would be interesting to research their secret corporate world which is their real world, the religion side being only a front to cover their real nature and intentions. |
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jgnat
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
posted Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:30:00 GMT
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![]() AlbertaPost 12065 of 17130 Since 7/4/2002 |
All these corporations help dilute the control, and thereby the liability of any one group. Remember, the society was founded by a lawyer, and then "refined" by a token "judge". This structure is nearly impossible to disentangle. I researched the income and expenditure of several local congregations and the corporation that manages the "Devil's Lake" assembly hall. One year the expenses dramatically increased for using the assembly hall. I suspect the various Kingdom Halls and other corporations are playing a version of "hide the assets". It's probably much worse the higher you go up in the organization. |
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
posted Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:11:00 GMT
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greendawn and jgnat, It would be interesting to research their secret corporate world which is their real world, the religion side being only a front to cover their real nature and intentions. Some of their corporate operations are designed to allow them to operate in each state for the purpose of operating large conventions, etc. But some of the other operations seem a little fuzzy. They also have many corporations in other countries, which is understandable to operate under various national laws. All these corporations help dilute the control, and thereby the liability of any one group. Remember, the society was founded by a lawyer, and then "refined" by a token "judge". This structure is nearly impossible to disentangle. The founder, Charles Russell, was not a lawyer. He was a clothing retailer with his father. It was the sale of the family clothing business which funded his establishment of the Watchtower Society. There will also be some information coming out by others which will give many more details on the origination of the Society, and other parties involved with Russell. Perhaps one of them was an attorney. Rutherford is the real source of much of the legalistic terminology used by the JWs. Instead of congregations they had "companies." They obolosihed Elders in favor of "Company Servants" etc. The terms Circuit and District come straight from the United States Court system. The older term "probation" also cam from the court system. Today, of course, they simply use 'reproof." I researched the income and expenditure of several local congregations and the corporation that manages the "Devil's Lake" assembly hall. One year the expenses dramatically increased for using the assembly hall. I suspect the various Kingdom Halls and other corporations are playing a version of "hide the assets". It's probably much worse the higher you go up in the organization. We really cannot be sure ... they could have had unusually higher contributions, or merged some operations. Generally, Kingdom Hall and Circuit Assembly accounting is lean and nothing compared to a normal church. Where the really big bucks show up is at the District Convention level ... when they have 50,000 or more in attendance. But, what I really would love to know is the assets held in stocks and bonds. And, of course, any assets held off shore. I have an idea, and some information, but I am waiting to gather more before I ever post anything. Jim Whitney |
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TopHat
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
posted Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:14:00 GMT
(4/20/2007)
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![]() New YorkPost 1490 of 2221 Since 10/10/2005 |
Thanks for your post on this subject, Amazing
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jgnat
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
posted Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:18:00 GMT
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![]() AlbertaPost 12067 of 17130 Since 7/4/2002 |
I did a bit of digging on the Canadian charities database this morning. Here's a portion of their 2006 return.
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jgnat
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
posted Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:48:00 GMT
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![]() AlbertaPost 12068 of 17130 Since 7/4/2002 |
My point is that the only source of new money is the rank and file in the congregations. Any other "expenses" or "income" is moving money between administrative entities. I've categorized the Canadian entities by type.
Only the Congregations have members. The Circuits and Assembly Halls are administrative entities only. Of all new giving, about $8 million is funnelled through the assemblies and circuits back to the Watch Tower Society, Canada. In turn, the Canadian office is contributing over half their income ($15 million) overseas (US Bethel?). |
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Amazing
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
posted Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:25:00 GMT
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jgnat, Thanks for posting the financial information. Someday US non-profits will have to do this too. Only the Congregations have members. The Circuits and Assembly Halls are administrative entities only. Of all new giving, about $8 million is funnelled through the assemblies and circuits back to the Watch Tower Society, Canada. In turn, the Canadian office is contributing over half their income ($15 million) overseas (US Bethel?). Yes, you have a good point: When 500 to 1500 JWs show up at an Assembly Hall, they give donations that more than cover operating expenses (usually). And the revenue from the food sales also runs a profit (usually). So, the surplus funds are donated by vote back to either the Branch office in each country, or to 'mother' in New York. The idea is that these are 'donations for the worldwide work' and are not declared profits. Of course, the main office in New York then uses these 'donated' funds from Canada and other nations to continue its operations. JWs then donate through their Kingdom Halls and at times directly. They also 'donate' for the literature which covers the cost, and does not make the Society dependant on the 'donations' form the householders. But they get that money too. Also, large and small estates are donated ... and the Society holds many large assets which, is sold, can turn a healthy profit ... but as long as they are not giving dividends to Society stockholders, and retain the funds for non-profit religious use, then it goes untaxed ... and it accumulates and must be invested or put in accounts off shore (Swiss Bank maybe?). It works similarly in business. I operate retail plazas and condominium projects. The only 'profit' in the plazas is the direct draws the owners take each quarter. These are equivalent to dividends. All other funds retained by me are considered operating funds. We can pass from one year to the next with as little as $200 to as much as $50,000. However, the difference is that income property owners want the 'profits' and are willing to pay the tax to get it. Also, they are operated for profit. But, as long as we retain funds in our operating account and reserve account, it is not declared profit, and is not taxed. Jim Whitney
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
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Amazing. Wow...this took a lot of work and research and we thank you. You, too, jgnat. Do either of you know if any of the fat cat officers of these corps. have their own personal corps. set up that perhaps "service" the WTBTS with vendor-type companies or service-type companies? I have to also wonder if those hidden officers might have side businesses either in their name or a family member's name that might be beneifitting from the org. |
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
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![]() TexasPost 4438 of 12748 Since 6/19/2004 |
Here is my question: who does the auditing of the cash? Outside parties or inside parties? Secular or "connected"?
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
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![]() AlbertaPost 12073 of 17130 Since 7/4/2002 |
So, the surplus funds are donated by vote back to either the Branch office in each country, or to 'mother' in New York. What I found interesting in my review of the tax returns is that congregations and assembly halls DONATE THE SAME SURPLUS every year. Except for that jump in donations one year that I noted. That tells me that "mother" has directed her child organizations how much they are to donate. |
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
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Journey-on: Do either of you know if any of the fat cat officers of these corps. have their own personal corps. set up that perhaps "service" the WTBTS with vendor-type companies or service-type companies? ... I have to also wonder if those hidden officers might have side businesses either in their name or a family member's name that might be beneifitting from the org. I doubt it. They may have wealthy family ... but the power and prestiege of leading a $ multi-billion corporation with near absolute control over the lives of over 6-million people is keeping them pretty busy ... you know, worrying about what new rule to create to DF people or increase magazine sales. There are JWs who I believe have businesses that provide services ... take a look at Bethel Tours, Inc. Terry: Here is my question: who does the auditing of the cash? Outside parties or inside parties? Secular or "connected"? ... But, I suspect that the Society has either trained, or sent JWs to business school so they can keep their audits in-house ... not necessarily because they would have anything to hide (though they could be hiding at least one thing I know about) but because they do not want to divulge what they deem to be private.Jgnat: That tells me that "mother" has directed her child organizations how much they are to donate. When I participated in Circuit activities, and attended the Elder's meetings at Assemblies and Conventions, I do not recall the Society demanding a set donation. What happens is that the Society directly finances the construction costs. (The labor is almost totally volunteer, and many materials are donated) The costs represent acquisition of land, permits, and needed services that the JWs in the area do not have the skills or license to provide. The Society expects a set payment plus interest (somewherer between 3% to 6% depending on various factors). This can be made in the form of a donation to cover operating costs and mortgage. Ultimately the Society, I believe, owns many of the local corporations that own the Assembly Halls (or sometimes the Circuits do). Either way, it can make it appear to be a charge, when in fact the Society is recovering costs. The Society does not want the Circuits and District Convention corporations retaining large cash holdings ... they do like many holding corporations and keep the subsidaries on a low or even zero reserve budget. Jim Whitney |
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
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![]() South DakotaPost 5989 of 7625 Since 10/8/2001 |
You wrote: I suspect that the Society has either trained, or sent JWs to business school so they can keep their audits in-house ... Why is it that at the upper Watch Tower Society levels there is virtually 100% worker satisfaction? Ever think about that? The one exception in the last 50 years was Ray Franz. Nobody else leaves, nobody talks. Why's everybody else so happy? See, the contrast is with the congregations where worker satisfaction is in the basement and turnover is as high as a bad movie. Why so much difference between turnover at the congregation level compared with the corporation level? No Watch Tower Corporation auditor left . . . ever? No attorneys left in the last 50 years? Even Ray Franz didn't talk about corporate structure or money that I ever read. Why's that I wonder . . . |
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
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It looks like a very complicated, labyrinthine, system as if they have something to hide by creating it. We will never know their financial secrets such as the real extend of their wealth and the nature of their assets unless an insider decides to talk but those doing the accounts are probably sworn to secrecy. My suspicion is that we don't know the real owners and rulers of this business who are hiding inside this maze and the GB are just puppets and a concealing front.
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
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I would think they would get better anonymity by using an accounting firm. Firms would have zero interest in disclosing a multimillion dollar client's secrets.
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Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
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![]() AlbertaPost 12084 of 17130 Since 7/4/2002 |
K, for geeks like me, the 2006 return is just full of little nuggets. The Watch Tower Society (Canada) in it's abundant munificence, paid out a total of $8,050 to three needy congregations. Their charity underwhelms.
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Re: Re: List of 100 Watchtower Corporations [Reposted and Updated]
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![]() Greenland Post 926 of 1277 Since 11/22/2002 |
Name of Qualified Donee: TAGALOG WEST CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES What can a congregation do with $50.00?????? Is this how they show they world what a great charity there are? wanna |


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... But, I suspect that the Society has either trained, or sent JWs to business school so they can keep their audits in-house ... not necessarily because they would have anything to hide (though they could be hiding at least one thing I know about) but because they do not want to divulge what they deem to be private.

