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Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH

    OnTheWayOut Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:44:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United States Illinois

    Post 368 of 11619
    Since 9/8/2006

    Do any people trying to fade out of the organization have any trouble coming to this forum and going to the Kingdom Hall?

    Specific problems might be:

    1. Wanting to use acronyms or names from the JWD (JayDUB, Borg, etc.) while talking to the JW.

    2. Wanting to tell someone at the Hall about a great point that you learned

    but know that you would be asked how you learned that?

    3. Wanting to stand up at the Hall and shout "Auld Soul or Blondie was right about that!"

    4. Wanting to get too specific on the JWD about personal information that others might

    try to clue in on to pinpoint who or where you are located (for paranoid posters like myself).

    Any other problems, you get the idea.

    greendawn Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:41:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United Kingdom England

    Post 8093 of 12660
    Since 4/9/2004
    If you are discreet then there shouldn't be any problems you don't have to tell the dubs that you visit what is to them an apostate site or disclose details about yourself here that may betray your identity.
    daniel-p Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:45:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United States

    Post 1258 of 4724
    Since 10/22/2005

    One time I almost let slip something about "ol' Freddie Franz" - that's sure to raise some eyebrows with the dub-dubs.

    OnTheWayOut Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:46:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United States Illinois

    Post 372 of 11619
    Since 9/8/2006
    Yes daniel, that's what I am looking for.
    Forscher Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:48:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United States

    Post 1382 of 1912
    Since 12/6/2004
    I haven't been to a meeting since before I started posting here. So it is not really an issue where I am concerned.



    Forscher
    ocsrf Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:58:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United States Georgia

    Post 171 of 196
    Since 7/11/2005

    What helps me is to not talk about religion or JW issues, when they come up, I  listen quietly and try to change the subject to a secular subject as quickly as I can.  I of course do this because, I enjoy most witnesses so long as they are not spewing out that nonsense they believe so much.

    OC

    vitty Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:58:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit




    Post 2201 of 2700
    Since 5/29/2004

     

    I said borg by mistake to my daughter.  She was really cross when I explained what it meant..............I said it was a common expression in our congregation 

    I also want to call them the dubs...............

    I can t remember calling it the WT when I was in..........I think I used the "organization"  and "society"...........is using the term WT a bit odd to an active witness?????

     

    OnTheWayOut Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:06:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United States Illinois

    Post 374 of 11619
    Since 9/8/2006

    Thanks Vitty,

    I thought if I ever accidentally said BORG, I would say it meant BROTHERLY ORGANIZATION.

    Dansk Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:24:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United Kingdom England, Greater Manchester

    Post 4546 of 6166
    Since 2/16/2003
    4. Wanting to get too specific on the JWD about personal information that others might

    try to clue in on to pinpoint who or where you are located (for paranoid posters like myself).

    I don't give a hoot! Let the beggars know who we are!!

    <--------------------------That's my real picture and I'm from the Whitefield, Manchester, England Congregation! My name is Ian Hinze (pronounced Hintse).

    Fear is only powerful when you allow it to be used against you! (Bloody 'ell, did I just say that?!)

    Ian

    fullofdoubtnow Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:29:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United Kingdom England

    Post 3996 of 6327
    Since 10/24/2005
    I'm not really sure, as I'd stopped attending meetings before I joined here, but I would think if you're really careful about what you give away, then there's no reason why someone would be able to work out who you are.
    OUTLAW Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:31:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    Canada British Columbia

    Post 4593 of 17234
    Since 10/11/2001
    LOL!!Ian..What a nice picture that is!..Your as cute as a button!..LOL!!...OUTLAW
    Dansk Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:35:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United Kingdom England, Greater Manchester

    Post 4547 of 6166
    Since 2/16/2003

    Hey Outy, (((((Hugs))))),

    PM me your e-mail address and I'll send you some more!

    Ian

     

    slimboyfat Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:42:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    Afghanistan

    Post 1204 of 4025
    Since 11/24/2004

    I have decided any mention of Franz at the meetings is a bad idea, in case I get the wrong one.

    Slim

    RubaDub Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:44:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United States

    Post 1037 of 2382
    Since 1/20/2003

    I must remind myself not to wear my "I'm a Jedi Master" t-shirt to gatherings.

    Rub a Dub

    Bodhisattva1320 Re: Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:45:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United States Arizona

    Post 36 of 135
    Since 10/4/2006
     don't give a hoot! Let the beggars know who we are!!

    <--------------------------That's my real picture and I'm from the Whitefield, Manchester, England Congregation! My name is Ian Hinze (pronounced Hintse).

    Fear is only powerful when you allow it to be used against you! (Bloody 'ell, did I just say that?!)

    Ian

    Cheers to THAT Ian!!!!!!!

    OUTLAW Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:47:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    Canada British Columbia

    Post 4595 of 17234
    Since 10/11/2001
    (((Ian)))..Are they the pics you`ve been saving for Brad Pitt?.. Blushing Angela is getting very testy about all this..LOL!!...OUTLAW
    whyizit Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:03:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United States Indiana

    Post 265 of 502
    Since 12/21/2005

    Hey!

      If any of you want to bring up a question that you know they don't have a good answer for, just have me ask you, then you can tell them that a "worldly  person" you were trying to witness to asked you "such and such" (so you would not be lying), and you just didn't know how to answer.  Then you could ask them what their response would have been in the same situation!  The pressure is off you.    And on them!  :0)  

      But you HAVE to let me know what happens!

    OnTheWayOut Re: Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:08:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    United States Illinois

    Post 378 of 11619
    Since 9/8/2006
     (so you would not be lying)

    Thanks Whyizit.  I don't think many people here are having morality issues with lying to the greatest liars of all, WTS and it's congregations.

    This is a spiritual warfare, after all, they don't deserve the truth.

    Still your offer is a good one.

    just have me ask you , then you can tell them that a "worldly  person" you were trying to witness to asked you "such and such"
    That would allow us to have knowledge that we shouldn't have unless we were researching apostasy.  "WE were not looking for apostate information, but a householder we were preaching to told us...."  Good thought.
    Tristram Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 18:03:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit


    Montserrat

    Post 48 of 230
    Since 2/10/2005
    4. Wanting to get too specific on the JWD about personal information that others might

    try to clue in on to pinpoint who or where you are located (for paranoid posters like myself).

    That's me to a "T".  My posts are vague to a fault to avoid giving away anything about me that might be picked up on by a sinister lurker.  I have said previously that I am an active JW, but beyond that I keep mum.  Status in congregation, marital status, area of the world, etc. I keep to myself.  Maybe, maybe someday...

    sf Re: Any trouble for faders going back and forth; JWD and the KH posted Tue, 10 Oct 2006 18:19:00 GMT (10/10/2006) edit




    Post 6919 of 8056
    Since 3/16/2001
    Fear is only powerful when you allow it to be used against you!

    Precisely.  Someone gets it, finally.

    "They don't deserve the truth"

    You can't be serious.  They all deserve to know truth.  Just as all of you who come here, in secret, to gain truth are deserving.  Why would the flock that is deeply cared about not deserving of truth that you freely gain here?

    sKally

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