Most hated Rules and Regulations


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    M Bendrr posted Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:54:00 GMT(8/14/2001)

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    The thread about "clinking" got me to thinking.
    What were the rules you hated most? Rules that were just so boneheaded as to be infuriating.
    There are so many rules and regulations to follow as a dub. Some rules may not even be able to be referenced in the publications, at least not firmly and clearly. Some may even be strictly word of mouth, or enacted locally by an elder or CO and treated as law.
    So which ones are y'alls' aggravations?

    A Witness's car: may not have a loud muffler (like a glasspack or dual exhaust), should not be a two-door, should not have a loud stereo.
    No motorcycles for dubs! (I knew this was "unofficial" when I saw a motorcycle in the parking lot at Watchtower farms, parked next to an old Ford Galaxie with a hot motor and dual exhaust)
    The "quota" was 10 hours a month in field service.
    At some wedding receptions, the "rule" was only the married couples may dance.
    No camoflouge clothing, it means you are imitating the military. (I never quit wearing those army surplus camo pants, great for working in lawn care)
    No tie-dyed shirts.
    No tee-shirts of bands or sports teams. (idolatry, but I wore my Pink Floyd t-shirt to quick builds anyway)


    M Francois posted Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:34:00 GMT(8/15/2001)

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    No beards. But I grew one anyway.
    No smoking. But I did it anyway.
    No pants suits for the ladies. I insisted my wife wear 'em anyway.
    No roller skating on weekends with worldly people. Did it anyway.
    No steel rim glasses. Looked good on me, I thought.
    No bell-bottomed pants. Had six pair.
    No wide neckties. Surprisingly good with a leisure suit.
    No leisure suits. Hated 'em but had to have at least one.
    No oral sex. Are you kidding? With MY record?


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    Hmmm posted Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:38:00 GMT(8/15/2001)

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    I never liked the "quota" of 10 hours else you'd be considered "weak."

    But I really hated the no beards rule. Supposedly the reason is that the Society didn't want to be associated with the hippy movement in the US during the late 60s-early 70s.

    In the mid 80s, when I was just starting to "progress" and also growing "little tiny hairs... all over my face!" (two points for anyone who can tell me who said this) I had to make sure to shave any time I was going to be on stage. The rule of thumb was that we should dress the same way a respected businessman or TV news anchor would dress.

    A news anchor in my city wore a beard, and plenty of businessmen did, but any brother wearing a beard couldn't--and still can't--be "used."

    Hmmm, good thing early Jews and Christians never wore beards, or the clean-shaven Jesus wouldn't have used them.

    M Moridin posted Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:50:00 GMT(8/15/2001)

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    I absolutely hated the camo rule along with "good witnesses go out in service on weekends", my only damn days off. I also hated the chaperone rule. The reason that JW marriages are so screwed up is because the two people can't talk about anything with someone sitting in between them.

    Kat_ posted Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:54:00 GMT(8/15/2001)

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    Why no 2-door cars? I heard that before but never figured out why.

    Just Wondering,

    Pork Chop posted Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:59:00 GMT(8/15/2001)

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    Man, you guys must have lived in some strange place, I have never heard of half these.

    F Robdar posted Wed, 15 Aug 2001 03:06:00 GMT(8/15/2001)

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    My son used to attend meetings with my parents after I stopped going to the KH. After my divorce we moved to Kansas City and my son wanted to continue to attend meetings. I didn't want to prevent him from going so I would drop him off at the hall and pick him up afterwards. Soon one of the elders offered to give my son a ride to and from the hall. One Sunday evening my son came home very upset. He told me that on the way home the elder had scolded him and told him that he shouldn't wear blue jeans and tennis shoes to the hall. He asked my son why he would dress that way. Told him that it was very important to dress in a suit to show proper respect to Jehovah. My son was too embarrassed to tell him that we were a single family and had no extra money to buy clothes for the meeting. All he had to wear to the meetings were his school clothes. My son was a 3rd generation JW. He saw through the BS at the age of 11 and he has never gone back to the meetings. He said he would rather not grow up to be that narrow minded. All I can think of is Luke 17:1-2.

    A Guppy Love,

    F blondie posted Wed, 15 Aug 2001 03:12:00 GMT(8/15/2001)

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    Porkchop, that's because they tend to be some individual's (elder or elder's wife, CO or DO) pet peeve. I can remember when white shirts were verboten on the the COs wears them all the is still verboten at the assemblies though. The last photo of the Gilead graduates showed 1/3 to 1/2 the brothers with colored shirts and some with bow ties.

    Some CO will come through and say sisters must wear nylons at the KH and in field service. When the sisters go out with him they might wear nylons, when he moves on to the next congregation, they go back to their normal attire.

    I see less and less of this, it is usual older brothers that still hang onto these idiosyncrasies.

    Two door cars are uncomfortable in field service when you have more than 2 people if you are getting in and out often or have older sisters as passengers. Yet I had a 2-door car for 10 years and regular pioneered and never heard a peep from anyone.

    F betweenworlds posted Wed, 15 Aug 2001 03:16:00 GMT(8/15/2001)

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    Going to a church for a funeral or a wedding, but not being *allowed* to participate in any of the event, lest we accidentally do something babylonish. LOL stupid, stupid, supid

    F Robdar posted Wed, 15 Aug 2001 03:20:00 GMT(8/15/2001)

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    My parents wouldn't come to my 2nd marriage because I got married in a wedding chapel. My sister is the only one who came but she isn't a JW anymore. I guess my parents thought that they might get demonized if they set foot in any religious building other than a KH. Speaking of demons, remember the no smurfs rule?

    A Guppy Love,

    d0rkyd00d posted Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:11:00 GMT(8/15/2001)

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    Man, this really pissed me off. And you know it must have, starting a post off with the word "man". Anyways, i hated the forced conscience bs. i know this doesn't fit this post at all, and my apologies, but this just came to me.

    I was skiing with my best friend and his family and then another witness family. Anyways, there was a special coming on tv, called "Street Magician's Secrets Revealed". I told my friend i wanted to watch it and it looked good, when the other family's mom blatantly told me,"We as Christians would not watch that. Magic is not acceptable." This was strike one.

    A little later on, we were talking about dreams. I said I read somewhere that a certain dream was supposed to mean something you were subconsciously thinking. Again, i was reminded by her,"We do not interpret dreams as Jehovah's Witnesses." Strike two.

    On the way home from the ski trip, she told a ghost story! i mean, what the hell? that was strike three, and i was pissed. Talk about having her head up her ass. I had to hold back my comment:"We as Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in ghosts, and therefore don't tell stories about them you fat bastard." heh heh heh.....

    "No cool quote yet. but i'll think of one soon."

    F alamb posted Wed, 15 Aug 2001 08:38:00 GMT(8/15/2001)

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    Explanation for no 2-door cars: It was unchristian to drive something that would inconvenience other publishers in service by having them climb out of the back seat.

    Some I recall:
    Can't pierce your ears because God didn't put holes in them in the first place.
    Couldn't chew gum at the hall.
    Couldn't wear sunglasses in field service because the householder wouldn't be able to see if your pupils were dilated and you might be stoned.
    We had to call Lucky Charms...Fortunate Trinkets.

    M Francois posted Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:32:00 GMT(8/15/2001)

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    Hmm: That was Bill Cosby that refered to growing "tiny little hairs, all over my face..." in a comedy album back in the late 60s. Man, you must be as old as me.


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    M Michael3000 posted Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:06:00 GMT(8/16/2001)

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    "No motorcycles for dubs! (I knew this was "unofficial" when I saw a motorcycle in the parking lot at Watchtower farms, parked next to an old Ford Galaxie with a hot motor and dual exhaust)"

    Hey, that bike might have belonged to my ol' table head at Brooklyn Bethel - Richard Dinsdale. He & his wife left Bethel, & I remember seeing some of stuff packed up & ready to ship out from 360 Furman St - including one BEAUTIFUL Harley.


    M JeffT posted Thu, 16 Aug 2001 20:11:00 GMT(8/16/2001)

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    I did an interesting little exercize at our church one time. I was speaking to the high school group about what it was like to be a dub. So I start running off the list of no-no's.

    If you're wearing blue jeans stand up.
    If you're female and wearing pants of any sort stand up.
    If your skirt is above the knee stand up.
    etc etc. I think I reeled off about a dozen of them. By the time I'm done about 90% of them are standing. (We go to a large church and there were about 300 in this group.) Then I say that if we were at the KH everybody standing would be talking to an elder after the meeting. Blew their minds, including the pastor who normally ran the service. He couldn't believe it would be expected to counsel kids for wearing blue jeans.

    M Bendrr posted Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:19:00 GMT(8/16/2001)

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    Michael3000, it wasn't a Harley I saw. Just a rice burner. But I can just imagine a V-twin's roar waking up the GB on a Sunday morning!

    M Bendrr posted Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:20:00 GMT(8/16/2001)

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    Michael3000, it wasn't a Harley I saw. Just a rice burner. But I can just imagine a V-twin's roar waking up the GB on a Sunday morning!

    Hmmm posted Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:42:00 GMT(8/16/2001)

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    That was Bill Cosby that refered to growing "tiny little hairs, all over my face..." in a comedy album back in the late 60s. Man, you must be as old as me.

    Bill Cosby it is. I'm not quite that old, however. I remember listening to my parent's copy of Bill Cosby: Himself as a very young child. I was born after it was relased.

    Congratulations Francois, you may redeem your points at the prize counter.


    mustbejoking posted Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:25:00 GMT(8/21/2001)

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    What is this "no 2 door car" thing? Was it USA only. It was never an issue in the UK - never heard of it! What's the reasoning behind it (I just know I'm gonna be sorry I asked) You open a door and tip the seat forward so someone can climb in the back eh? Or is it different in the US? Maybe tipping a seat is a cue for oral sex? I just dont get it?



    mustbejoking posted Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:28:00 GMT(8/21/2001)

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    Minor correction here - when I said "I just dont get it" I was referring to the 2 door car nonsense rather than oral sex.

    Although thinking about it ....


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