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Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
Dogpatch
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Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:24:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 2955 of 3812 Since 12/26/2000 |
from the Brooklyn Heights Blog: http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/20524
The Real Deal looks at the Watchtower’s Brooklyn Heights real estate holdings and speculates how much the organization could make once it decides to put its remaining properties here on the market:
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:31:00 GMT
(7/21/2010)
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Post 684 of 1487 Since 6/30/2009 |
The WTS made some good investments over the years. With the contributions they receive and the property they own, I do not think that the WTS will collapse any day soon. Of course wise investments do not mean that they are doing God's will anymore than the man in Jesus' illustration who had many storehouses and decided to build more.
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sir82
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:32:00 GMT
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Mongolia Post 4484 of 6246 Since 5/17/2005 |
Well that oughta solve the cash flow problems for a while! Build a new place for $11 million, sell existing propertioes for $1 billion. I think even Bethel could find a way to make $990 million in profit stretch for a few decades. |
blondie
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:48:00 GMT
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![]() Post 30671 of 34146 Since 5/28/2001 |
Of course, the US is currently in a commercial real estate slump....that's why they are "renting" out rooms at the Bossert. I don't count it as liquid cash until they sell. |
Dogpatch
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:13:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 2956 of 3812 Since 12/26/2000 |
from: A heavenly portfolioJehovah's Witnesses mull more Brooklyn divestments July 01, 2010 07:00AM By C.J. Hughes The Jehovah's Witnesses, famous for their door-to-door proselytizing, were originally based outside Pittsburgh, where founder Charles Taze Russell handed out his first magazines in 1879. |
DaCheech
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:42:00 GMT
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![]() Post 3832 of 6078 Since 5/13/2004 |
these guys are smart. why settle for .85billion when they can rent and sell when the conditions are right! I would not rent one of their rooms, even if it was 1/3 the price of a hotel. I have vowed not to give them another penny in my life |
nicolaou
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:12:00 GMT
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![]() England, BuckinghamshirePost 4101 of 4746 Since 2/12/2001 |
You know, I've never been comfortable with the oft repeated mantra that the WT will only fall when the money dries up. Frankly, if that situation ever arose, I can see many diehard dubs strengthening their loyalty even more! I'm sure a cash strapped WT could survive in some fashion. However, there's no reason why we might not live to see a very wealthy WT lose the bulk of it's membership. It's not about the money, it's about the minds and hearts of millions of ordinary people. I would be happy to see the Watchtower society and it's leaders become very, very rich but ever isolated, lonely and irrelevant. |
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:14:00 GMT
(7/21/2010)
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Post 5777 of 6462 Since 4/23/2005 |
They are planning on building in the near future? then evidently they are not planning on the end being right around the corner! rank and file did not get the memo though. |
OnTheWayOut
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:22:00 GMT
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![]() IllinoisPost 11567 of 15650 Since 9/8/2006 |
One huge advantage to being a non-profit religion: You can hold your property until the slump goes away (unless you really blunder in your business and need the cash) because you don't pay taxes and you can get some dubs to maintain the property for free- well.... maybe for room and board. |
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:24:00 GMT
(7/21/2010)
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Post 538 of 1521 Since 4/30/2010 |
WTS practicing slave labor. Aren't there laws against this sort of thing? Oh yeah, the rank and file numbnuts "volunteered".... nvm, slave away lemmings!
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:58:00 GMT
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Post 1139 of 1168 Since 7/28/2003 |
What good are all those buildings if there are no people in them? What good are thousands of empty kingdom halls and printing presses that produce nothing but junk mail? Buildings do not a religion make. |
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:07:00 GMT
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Post 544 of 1521 Since 4/30/2010 |
You know the city officials are just sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for this land to go for sale, they are seeing all the future tax $$$ they can be raking in. |
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:28:00 GMT
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Post 10 of 18 Since 3/21/2010 |
Brooklyn Watchtower properties may have to be sold like BP, if facing a deluge of lawsuits. |
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:41:00 GMT
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Post 5222 of 6211 Since 4/7/2001 |
I read repeatedly things like - 'tried to sell but withdrew until market gets better'. The market might not ever get better. Can they sell the factories as housing? Can Brooklyn absorb that many upscale people? Keep in mind that a few Catholic -level lawsuits could easily wipe out all this value. More than that, remember that all this lovely real estate represents 130 years of human suffering from persistent, entrenched fraud - The kid who sent pennies, the old sister who sent in her SS check, the long term Bethelites who got thrown in the street because the Watchtower wanted to save more money. Too bad we can't burn them all down and sew the ground with salt like the Romans used to do. metatron |
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:22:00 GMT
(7/22/2010)
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![]() Post 10649 of 13388 Since 5/10/2007 |
Yet, they cannot afford more than one towel per handwashing. I would like to see people wasting those supplies to the hilt--wasting the littera-trash, also. |
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:23:00 GMT
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Post 490 of 1947 Since 3/9/2009 |
Yet they keep asking for donations from the rank and file.
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:49:00 GMT
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Post 1763 of 10746 Since 6/17/2009 |
The Society's real estate holdings are small potatoes compared to the Lutherans, Methodists, and Presbyterians, at least with the Lutheran Fund you get a dividend, they run it like a real business.
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coffee_black
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:43:00 GMT
(7/22/2010)
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![]() MassachusettsPost 2527 of 3053 Since 2/6/2002 |
If the Brooklyn properties are worth that much....imagine the $ total of all their facilities around the world! In the Proclaimers book, there were roughly 50 pages of pictures of branch facilities etc. Coffee |
Gayle
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:12:00 GMT
(9/20/2011)
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![]() ArizonaPost 2951 of 3462 Since 11/17/2006 |
Is anyone tracking these properties? I have it, correct me if wrong please: Sold: 139 Columbia Heights (Standish Arms Hotel) Sold = $50M 67 Livingston - Sold = $18.6M 89 Hicks - Sold = $14M 360 Furman - Sold = $250M For Sale: 34 Orange St = asking $3.5M 165 Columbia Heights = asking $4.5M 67 Ramsen St = asking $3.6M 105 Willow St = asking $3.6M 76 Willow St = $3.6M 161 Columbia Heights - ? 183 Columbia Heights - ? 50 Orange St - ?
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Gayle
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Re: Brooklyn Watchtower properties valued at over $1 billion
posted Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:28:00 GMT
(9/20/2011)
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![]() ArizonaPost 2952 of 3462 Since 11/17/2006 |
More addresses I found awhile back but I don't know how accurate or current status, needs updates or corrections no doubt: 124 Columbia Heights (I suspect that will be the last one to go) 107 Columbia Heights 119 Coumbia Heights 129 Columbia Heights (maybe that one is sold already?) 117 Adams 25-30 (?) Columbia Heights (is that the former Squibb Building?) 79-99 (?) Willow St ( not sure about this one - Towers Hotel?) 97 Columbia Heights (Margaret Hotel?) 175 Pearl St 90 Sands St 98 Montague (Bosset Hotel) was for sale for $100M but fell through 108 Joralemon ST 107 Willow St. 85 Jay St 25 Clark St (Leverich Tower Hotel) (again, please I am just throwing this out to all that know more about these Brooklyn WT properties, just to keep track a bit) So all corrections are very welcome. |


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