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How do you release the grudge?
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How do you release the grudge?
posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:18:00 GMT
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Post 3 of 29 Since 10/25/2009 |
I have got a huge grudge against Jehovah and his "organization". I feel like it has ruined my life and any chance of a relationship with God..(if there is one.) My immediate family has disowned me along with everyone I was comfortable with my whole life. I get so angry when the elders try to stop by my house to see if my life is bad enough to start coming back to the KingdomHall. I cant stand it. I have abandonment issues now and cant seem to stay in a relationship. I have tried to talk to others about my feelings, but I never feel people understand. I do not want sympathy I want to be happy for once in my life. I had guilt when I was in, and now that I have left I feel lost and alone. Worst of all, becz of what I was taught, I have no fear of death and do not regret any of my stupid actions. What's the point? Im going to be destroyed anyway right? My family life would have been a lot better if the JWs would have never stopped by so many years ago. My Mom used to say we were so lucky that they became JW when I was born, cuz we might be smokers or something. I dont know about all you out there, but I would rather smoke 6 packs a day then deal with the pain that this religion has caused. Please if anyone understands my feelings please give me suggestions for handling my anger. |
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:39:00 GMT
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Post 342 of 377 Since 1/30/2007 |
I think many of us can identify with the angry. It is natural and normal and part of the grieving process. Are you in a position where you can see a counsellor? |
leavingwt
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:41:00 GMT
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![]() MississippiPost 4770 of 4987 Since 6/16/2008 |
As months and years go by, it WILL get a bit easier. Please hang in there.
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Robdar
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:42:00 GMT
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![]() Post 8268 of 8558 Since 8/12/2001 |
How long have you been out? Your wounds seem to be fresh. |
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:55:00 GMT
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Post 201 of 224 Since 5/21/2009 |
to some degree, we all feel the pain of what we have experienced in wt world. some greater than others. each person here has a story to tell. this is a good place to share. put your pain out there when you are ready. someone on this board will see it, and will have lived the same thing. i thought my journey was unique to the wt world. it was not, and i have received many who have and are going through what i am. it really helps. sit back, buckle your seat belt, and hold on. it will be bumpy. but as you take the ride, there are many here who are riding with you. |
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:57:00 GMT
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![]() Post 3603 of 3670 Since 8/30/2006 |
The comments are so correct... yes we can relate, and yes... it does get better and better and better, so hang in there! A few thoughts... anger is just a normal and natural stage of loss, and is a stepping stone in your healing process. It is known as part of the "Stages of Grief" that one experiences through any loss, large or small (as in losing someone in death or losing a wallet.) Read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model
(end of quoted material.) There are many things that can be really beneficial for healing the anger (for although it is just a natural process, if it goes on too long, it will affect your health and well-being.) Some find strength in counseling and self-help pubications, some do personal rituals, some just allow the time to heal them. Regardless, know this: There are WONDERFUL PEOPLE in the world, who are full of love and understanding. There is a lot for you to discover. Look forward to it. Love and strength to you, |
Goshawk
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:47:00 GMT
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![]() Post 584 of 599 Since 10/10/2002 |
T-i-me is on our side. Yes it is. |
jamiebowers
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:49:00 GMT
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![]() OhioPost 2679 of 2856 Since 1/27/2007 |
Things will get better in time if you build a social support ystem. This is a good place to start. Please check your pm's by clicking on the envelope in the upper right hand corner. |
jamiebowers
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:50:00 GMT
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![]() OhioPost 2680 of 2856 Since 1/27/2007 |
Things will get better in time if you build a social support system. This is a good place to start. Please check your pm's by clicking on the envelope in the upper right hand corner. |
Balsam
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:23:00 GMT
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![]() North CarolinaPost 1856 of 1865 Since 1/31/2002 |
Anger, separation anxiety, with the people of the organization that has tormented you into feeling guilty for your emotions. Something that always bothered me when I was a witness was that our creator made us to feel deeply. Yet the witnesses made us feel so guilty for feeling strongly about anything that wasn't about them. They would tell us how we should distrust our hearts (feelings & intuition) because it is out to deceive us according to the bible. So why did God create man and woman with an ability to feel so Keenly if it was wrong to do so????? They could hinge an entire talk on how our hearts were out to ruin us and make us doubt the organization or the leadership. It was all such baloney and we all know it now. It was always about control to keep us in-line and if we so much as doubted the baloney they fed us, we were being deceived by our own hearts. Of course there was nothing wrong with the organization, it was perfect and we dared not ever question their authority over us. The organization used our own natural emotions to make us believe, and fear them. I was so angry when I left because I had lost my son because of the blood policy (what I believed then). I was wanting revenge and believe me I thought of all kinds of nasty things to get even with various ones who were proud of my son Dak's death for refusing blood. That lasted for a while then I thought; why am I wasting all this energy on this dumb, ignorant bunch of people including family members. I decided to heck with them all and decided I was done with them. My parents were dead and my siblings weren't witnesses. I had a nephew I never saw and his family who were witnesses. I did have two sons still in the witnesses when I left and I made up my mind I would let them decide whether they wanted to remain JW's. They were 18 and 13 then, when my youngest son visited we didn't talk about JW stuff but I let him know I would take him to meetings if he wanted to go. He never did want to go and gradually both my sons choose to leave without any pressure from me to educate them. I had left their JW dad when I left the religion and I moved away and started a new life. It is the best thing I ever did for myself and it's been 8 years and I can say looking over the past 8 years I've been free of the anger and fear JW held me with since making that decision. Ignorance and fear control's followers in the Jehovah's Witness and they choose to be ignorant and fearful. Family or not they are people and people are easily manipulated with fear tactics, even governments use it to stir up people. I later came to realize my son did refuse blood transfusions because we raised him believing it was wrong. But he might have died anyway because the auto accident injured him so badly. Yes it was our fault that Dak refused blood because that is what we believed but we made the choice to be in the JW's without really investigating it. Stupidity is bliss they say. Our stupidity was our own fault and I awoke and got the heck out, my ex-husband continues in his stupidity. |
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:52:00 GMT
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Post 2491 of 2548 Since 10/30/2007 |
The anger is a good thing. It builds psychological boundaries to protext yourself against being sucked in again. Over time, the anger dissipates, if you start filling your life with more constructive thoughts and hopes and dreams. The more engaged you become with building a new life, the less time you will have to feel hurt and angry and betrayed. Butit will take small steps first. Doing small things. Establishing a life and an identity outside of the krazy kult takes baby steps, time, and focusing on what you now want - and what you are now allowed to have - in life. Structure some time each day to appreciate what you like in life - art, food, books, anything that lets you feel your own sense of existing, of being alive, of having your life back, of being free for the first time. Nurture feelings of appreciation for what you are free to pursue now. The anger is useful, try to keep it focused where it truly belongs, and start letting yourself have other feelings, too. For me, I found great relief in being alone - free from prying eyes, judgmental minds, spiteful tongues, hypocrits. I rejoiced in being free from them, from not having to see them at meetings, or espouse their beliefs in service. From there I branched out into activities that interested me. After awhile, I only got angry when confronted with an example of their petty attempts to control people. I was free from them. |
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:05:00 GMT
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Post 52 of 80 Since 9/10/2009 |
My posts are one way I deal with the pain of the Watchtower organization's family-shattering teachings. Posting on this forum not only gives me a safe place to vent what I'm feeling, but also is how I set and affirm an agenda for coping with my own situtation. In other words, many of my posts (this one included) are written to myself just as much as to the person I'm replying to. It helps me set expectations for myself, encouraging me to "practice what I preach", as it were. Getting up the courage to make the first post is the first step on the journey, and a big one. We aren't a subsitute for professional counseling, just a group of kindred souls to talk to. Listen to the others and share your support and encouragement. That's why we come here. It's one big support group, full of people who have lived through the same experiences. Welcome!
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:19:00 GMT
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![]() CaliforniaPost 3371 of 3454 Since 7/6/2006 |
I've been quite lucky in my exit process. It's hard for me to give advice when my situation will probably not be as hard as yours, brainwashed-from-birth. But I can at least tell you that reaching out and connecting socially has helped tremendously. I'm meeting cool people at every social event--much better than the "wasteland of evil people" the WT tried to spook me with! You may not have what I do, but just look for the good people in your locale. It's a start. Keeping busy with all the things you couldn't do will help, at least for the time being, to distract you from Borg issues. This board will certainly help. But even I found it good to take a vacation from reading about Borg drama, just to keep my sanity. If you dwell on your hatred, the Borg wins. If you give them the middle finger, you win. You've gotta be flippant about it. |
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:08:00 GMT
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Post 167 of 234 Since 6/29/2009 |
Some times all I can do is find something constructive to do and exsert myself (work very hard) Seems to help get my mind off of the JW thing and find Self Gradification. God is not going to destroy you so I hope that you can get that out of your mind... I think you would have to be really bad before God will not give you a second chance. |
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:01:00 GMT
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Post 2163 of 2301 Since 12/29/2007 |
Hello BFB, I have got a huge grudge against Jehovah and his "organization". Fair enough!
I feel like it has ruined my life and any chance of a relationship with God..(if there is one.) Leaving the organisation is the first step toward having a relationship with God. The "jehovah" the WT preach is nothing to do with God and a false idol they have created. There is only one way to have a relationship with God and it is certainly not through the WT. John 14:6 (New International Version)
6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Matthew 11:27-30 (New International Version)
27"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. 28"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
My immediate family has disowned me along with everyone I was comfortable with my whole life. I get so angry when the elders try to stop by my house to see if my life is bad enough to start coming back to the KingdomHall. I cant stand it. I have abandonment issues now and cant seem to stay in a relationship. I have tried to talk to others about my feelings, but I never feel people understand. I do not want sympathy I want to be happy for once in my life. I had guilt when I was in, and now that I have left I feel lost and alone. Worst of all, becz of what I was taught, I have no fear of death and do not regret any of my stupid actions. What's the point? Im going to be destroyed anyway right? My family life would have been a lot better if the JWs would have never stopped by so many years ago. My Mom used to say we were so lucky that they became JW when I was born, cuz we might be smokers or something. I dont know about all you out there, but I would rather smoke 6 packs a day then deal with the pain that this religion has caused. Please if anyone understands my feelings please give me suggestions for handling my anger. You need to forget everything the WT every taught you, it is all baloney. They have twisted and distorted the whole of the gospel. There is real peace and happiness, in this life. It comes from knowing the Prince Of Peace. Give Him your heavy bags. He does not weight you down (unlike the WT). Blessings, Stephen |
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:51:00 GMT
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Post 448 of 508 Since 6/17/2009 |
But Stephen, you at some point must come to the same realization about your own uber literal take on the Bible and your schemes. Wouldn't Jesus say to the Fundamentalists- 'Baloney!' The ever swinging door of cultdom |
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:38:00 GMT
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Post 2164 of 2301 Since 12/29/2007 |
Hello designs, I take Jesus at face value. He does not change and His words are true Hebrews 13:8 (New International Version)8Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. Numbers 23:19 (New International Version)
19 God is not a man, that he should lie,
You choose the Jesus you want. When you meet Him you can see if the real one is like the one you have believed in. I pray you are not like the Pharisees, this is what Jesus had to say to them. John 8:45 (New International Version)45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
All the best, Stephen
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:47:00 GMT
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Post 449 of 508 Since 6/17/2009 |
And maybe he just won't be the monster the Fundamentalists portray him to be! Theology- where metaphysics, philosophy and pseudo-science meet. |
LouBelle
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:57:00 GMT
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![]() Post 3914 of 4005 Since 5/19/2005 |
You release it, you let it go, you let it lie, you make your peace with it. It was your past. Yes we all have our feelings regarding that past but it doesn't rule us (well most of us) anymore. You move on. You come to a support forum and get it out but on the outside rebuild your life. Do the things that make you smile, happy, things you enjoy, hobbies. Start getting to know other people and form relationships with them. Take control of your life. Baby steps though |
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Re: How do you release the grudge?
posted Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:01:00 GMT
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Post 62 of 66 Since 3/21/2009 |
Come on...it's like you still believe all that crap! NOOOO you are not going to be "destroyed anyway". But if you truly believe that, then I think you need to get yourself back to the HALL. |



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