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    highdose what else could they get away with? posted Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:47:00 GMT (10/15/2009) edit



    Post 150 of 372
    Since 6/6/2009

    Having explained/pointed out the doctrinal  flip flops to some JW's i know i was astonished to find that they just brushed it all aside, on one occasion they seemed to just tune me out and quit listening. The GB really do have them whipped, it makes me wonder what it would take for them to sit up and realise what a insane religon they are in?! and in the meantime how much can the GB get away with because of the blind faith of their followers??

    carla Re: what else could they get away with? posted Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:40:00 GMT (10/15/2009) edit



    Post 5313 of 5406
    Since 4/23/2005

    I think it was  Voltaire that said, 'those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities'

    WTWizard Re: what else could they get away with? posted Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:41:00 GMT (10/15/2009) edit




    Post 8819 of 9102
    Since 5/10/2007

    I have heard of other cults where the leaders have made the members drink poison, and others where people have been slaughtered.  And, if the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger were to make something up where people were to serve them 24/7 without a break, they would have just as much success as did the other cults where they were killed with poison or other means.

    OnTheWayOut Re: what else could they get away with? posted Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:52:00 GMT (10/15/2009) edit


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    Post 9384 of 9676
    Since 9/8/2006

    As the WTS cult falls apart slowly, or perhaps quickly with enough lawsuits for pedophiles and blood issues and stuff, I imagine they will push the envelope here and there.

    They might get away with an almost total ban of the internet.  I don't think they will actually try to get away with forbidding it, but I can see them forbid the chat and research stuff.  If they had the balls to do it, I could see them offer a "filter" to their members that would also track the members.  They would say that internet porn is so prevalent that they want members to install the filter to prevent "abuse" of pornography.  You couldn't be an MS or elder without the filter installed- of course, who would know what secondary computer you have/use and where you get your internet connection?  But still, wives would be convinced that there's an epidemic and husbands would feel compelled to prove to their wife that they don't have a pornography problem, so they would allow the filter at home. 

     

    lepermessiah Re: what else could they get away with? posted Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:41:00 GMT (10/15/2009) edit



    Post 102 of 155
    Since 8/26/2009

    There are a lot of total die-hards who hang on every word like its from God's mouth.

    I believe there are many who would go the route of Jim Jones' followers and "drink the kool aid" if the GB said to.

    Why would so many people I know have lasted through 1975 and STILL remained?

    I know of a few old men who are still window washers who had lost it all due to those boneheads in 75 and still stayed totally "faithful"

    I agree with OTWO - they could go after the internet big time. It has to be the biggest fear - people who get disillusioned have a wealth of knowledge on the internet that is so damning to the WTBTS...............

    Other things they could "ban" or strongly suggest against:

    1) Sports - they already have boxing, skydiving, etc....why not add more? They could point out the "violence" and "win at all costs" mentality, the "patriotism" of the World Cup and Olympics, etc......

     

    2) Movies - They already have the unwritten "R" rated rule for the USA, why not tighten that up?

     

    Its all about control - how far do they want to push the envelope?

    Goshawk Re: what else could they get away with? posted Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:15:00 GMT (10/15/2009) edit


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    Post 495 of 599
    Since 10/10/2002

    Rules on grooming.                                              Rules on hobbies, free time. 

    Rules in the bedroom.                                          Rules on medical treatment.

    Rules on association.                                           Rules on education.

    Rules on association outside the organization.   Rules on worship, religious activities.

    Rules on acceptable entertainment.                    Rules on questioning the rules or organization.

    Rules on wrong thinking.                                     Rules on employment.

    Rules on voting and politics.                                Rules on dating, courtship.

    Rules on obeying higher authorities.                   Rules on family conduct.

    Rules on not pointing out the hypocrisy of the organization.

    I think they have it pretty much covered, they can make changes to these at any time.

    Control

    stillin9 Re: what else could they get away with? posted Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:07:00 GMT (10/15/2009) edit



    Post 7 of 22
    Since 9/30/2009

    "it makes me wonder what it would take for them to sit up and realise what a insane religon they are in?!"


    Well, not too long ago I did realize what an insane religion I was (physically still in but mentally out.) The thing that made me find out all this stuff was the internet and the wealth of information that on the internet. I really hope more and more people wake up.

    Now just curious highdose, what things did you mentioned to those JW's? I have of course seen that reaction from JW's almost every time I try to bring some question up (very cautiously.) As a matter of fact, I used to show that same reaction myself some time ago! But I am just curious, what things did mention?

    Regards,


    Stillin

    stillin9 Re: what else could they get away with? posted Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:09:00 GMT (10/15/2009) edit



    Post 8 of 22
    Since 9/30/2009

    Sorry about all the typos, by the way. I am still getting used to the fact that I can't modify my own posts :(

    Out at Last! Re: what else could they get away with? posted Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:23:00 GMT (10/18/2009) edit



    Post 103 of 136
    Since 8/29/2009

    1) Sports - they already have boxing, skydiving, etc....why not add more? They could point out the "violence" and "win at all costs" mentality, the "patriotism" of the World Cup and Olympics, etc......

     

    I had an elder tell me that a JW would not ride a motorcycle.  That never slowed down my riding a bit, as a matter of fact, I rode down his driveway and turned around in front of his house the same day I bought my brand new bike. He wasn't home, but his JW neighbors quickly filled him in.

    witchtowerwitch Re: what else could they get away with? posted Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:22:00 GMT (10/18/2009) edit



    Post 5 of 30
    Since 9/30/2009

    Hi folks,i'm a 40 watchtower slave.............ex slave now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And i'm an expert on jw history....................................So ask away.I will be glad to enlighten all...................witchtowerwitch signing off for now!Stay tuned for my best work ok?

    wobble Re: what else could they get away with? posted Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:02:00 GMT (10/18/2009) edit


    United Kingdom

    Post 1614 of 1786
    Since 2/20/2008

    I think this is a brilliant thread Highdose  1 ,

    Having seen what they have got away with in the past, and still do with those even half in, (see the threads praising today's WT study ),  WTF ?

    I would not be surprised at any nonsense they come out with being swallowed by the rank and file. It is frightening to think that they, the GB/Writing Comm. wield such power, but they DO !

    I think that instead of becoming more reasonable and Mainstream, they will become more paranoid and Cultish, demanding more and more from their members, especially in a monetary way, I mean, boy do they have a cash-flow problem !

    Perhaps the outlandish demands will wake up more Dubs, for example I was a mind-controlled Dub, to a great degree, for 58 years, but when they came out with their  "don't look at the internet " stuff,  "we will tell you what to think "  that woke me up !

    I just pray that they make more wrong moves, they have been quite clever in keeping it all going, but they may not continue to be so good at it as the internet exposes them.

    Love

    Wobble

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