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JW Dad kills family and commits suicide

    M Wordly Andre posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 05:28:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    I was talking to a friend about this website and he asked me If I remember a story about a JW family, murder/ suicide, I remember hearing a story about a JW dad killing his wife and his kids, I believe the news said that he stabbed and shot them, and that he may have killed them because his wife was about to divorce him. It happend in CA and I think it was sometime around 1992-1993, I heard a little about it on the news back then but nothing more after that.

    If you know about this story or something like it please post.

    Scully posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 05:38:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    There have been a couple of cases in the last few years. Danny Hazsard would know the specific details.

    There was Christian Longo. Killed his wife and 4 (?) children and then became a fugitive after having been disfellowshipped.

    There was also Robert Bryant. Similar circumstances to Longo.

    Last year there was a Latin-American family (the name escapes me) where the father killed his wife and a couple of the children, and then killed himself after the daughter reported that he had been molesting her.

    You'll probably find information on all three of these cases by searching in this collection: Crimes by JWs

    M Stealth453 posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 05:59:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    Wolves among sheep. James Kostelniuk.

    Written by a Canadian ex jw whose ex wife and children were murdered by the woman's new dub husband. Great book. Sad sad story.

    F LDH posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:10:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    Yeah it was Longo i was thinking of, thanks Scully

    wednesday posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:50:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    What I find so terribly sad (aside from the extreme obivious ) is you tell this to an elder and he'll say things like, they were evil all along and never true jws, they were under demon infuence, They left jehovah and see what happens.etc. Not a word about how DF effects people. They just ignore the suicides and murders that happen. It is never the wts fault in any way.

    M Toronto_Guy posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:54:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    Worldy Andre,

    This type of thing must have been what you were referring to on your last thread: "Dear Jehovah, protect me from your witnesses..." LMAO...yes they can be downright dangerous!

    It seems like that thread has been removed...I'm still curious what you were getting at with it though...

    toronto_guy

    F blondie posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:56:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    Robert and Janet Bryant and their 4 children (California/Oregon)

    http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/6killed.htm

    Meza family in North Carolina

    http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/stories/wcnc-090104-al-vigil_kids.d4a2cfdd.html

    http://www.kentuckylaketimes.com/localnews/sept04/jwmurders/09100406.php

    Silvia Plath posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:55:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    All must serve Death and Obediance!

    Give us Obediance or we give you death!

    F blondie posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:04:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    Could you clarify that, SP?

    M DannyHaszard posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:50:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    Read this file, Family Murders by Jehovah's Witnesses or Why It Might be Unsafe to Marry a Jehovah's Witness if you want to know of what some of these people are capable of in their strict fundamentalist or demented mindset.

    carla posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:02:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    I tried discussing a few of the cases with my jw. Particularly the Longo (and recent Mexico case) case. His reply? 'Well see? he was df'd for a reason. He was obviously not a real jw anyway and was nuts to begin with."

    Always someone else's fault. They cannot see that the wt and its policies contributes to these murders.

    F jgnat posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:07:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    What is so ironic carla, is that "they were inherently evil anyways" excuse does not offer any reassurance to the congregations. Think about it. If someone so disturbed could attend regular meetings and rub shoulders with regular JW's without raising an eyebrow, who is to say there aren't more latent murder-suicides waiting to happen?

    "They were inherently evil" excuse just goes to prove the congregations can NEVER be completely "clean".

    carla posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:21:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    Hi jgnat,

    Yep, I also suggested that as well. Jah will find out all and take care of it sometime I guess. In the meantime?

    F jgnat posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:03:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    In the meantime, the inside of the Kingdom Hall is no safer than out in the big, bad world.

    M Wordly Andre posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:44:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    If I remember correct the case that I was thinking of was in CA, and I don't think they said anything about the dad being dF.

    M Wordly Andre posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:50:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    Toronto Guy, Yes my thread was removed, I didn't mean to upset anyone by it, just thought it would be funny. I guess I should have made it a bit more clear, but I was hoping that people could add in things that they would never have been able to add in before, like wining the lotto, having a white christmas, etc. Sorry again if I offended anyone. I do have a strange sense of humor. Andre

    Silvia Plath posted Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:42:00 GMT(7/18/2006)

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    People who have no love in thier hearts, but rather serve death and obediance, will always try to rationalize why they serve death and obediance rather than LOVE

    "We didn't come to the memorial because it was pagan"

    "He was disfellowshipped for a reason, we can't associate with his family"

    "let your baby die rather than give him a blood transfusion"

    Translation...we do not serve a God of LOVE, but rather maintain our allegiance to the false idol of Death and Obediance. Perfection is death, perfect control is death, not allowing for the organic or creative spritit to foster, or independent thought. Death of the spirit while the body is still living.

    .

    M Toronto_Guy posted Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:43:00 GMT(7/19/2006)

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    Worldy Andre,

    I guess I must have a strange sense of humor too, b/c I found it very funny..thx for the laugh :)

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