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    F Gayle posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:50:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    Jehovah's Witnesses sue RA Public Television

    January 15, 2011 - 11:40 AMT 07:40 GMT

    PanARMENIAN.Net - The Christian religious organization of Jehovah's Witnesses, as well as representatives of the organization submitted a claim against the Public Television of Armenia, as well as journalists Gevorg Altunyan, Sona Torosyan, Nune Alexanyan to the court of general jurisdiction of Kentron and Nork-Marash administrative districts.

    Director of the center of rehabilitation and aid for the victims of destructive cults Alexander Amaryan told a PanARMENIAN.Net reporter that Jehovah’s Witnesses accuse the Public Television of Armenia of “publishing and disseminating wrong information concerning their honor and dignity.”

    According to Amaryan, court hearings will start in January.

    We would like to recall that 23-year-old resident of Sevan town Arman Torosyan, who killed his parents in November 2010, was declared a member of the organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    While the organization will try to prove during the trial that the criminal is not a representatives of the organization and that similar aggressive

    behavior is not typical for the organization members.

    http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/society/news/59637/Jehovahs_Witnesses_sue_RA_Public_Television

    M DaCheech posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:02:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    you're not supposed to sue, but they can!

    M Finally-Free posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:15:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    the organization will try to prove during the trial that the criminal is not a representatives of the organization and that similar aggressive behavior is not typical for the organization members.

    The same can be said about members of any religious organization, not just JWs. But the watchtower has pontificated about their 'high moral standards' for many decades, claiming to be so much better than everyone else.

    When you set yourself up as a target, sooner or later someone's gonna shoot.

    W

    Vidiot posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:19:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

    F Lady Lee posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:26:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    A link on the same page takes you to this:

    RA Public Television denies accusations of Jehovah’s Witnesses

    January 15, 2011 - 15:38 AMT 11:38 GMT

    PanARMENIAN.Net - Chairman of the Council of the Armenian Public Television and Radio Company (APTRC) Alexan Harutyunyan refrained from going into details concerning the case initiated against the Public Television of Armenia (PTA) by the Christian religious organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    “I would not like to present details of the case, as it will be discussed in court. In my opinion, the PTA has not committed any errors. I think we will prove it in court,” Harutyunyan told a press conference.

    He noted that the criminal investigation initiated with respect to a murder in Sevan town will answer many questions. “The investigation has not ended yet, while the trial on our case has not been launched. I do not think it is expedient to provide additional information,” said Harutyunyan.

    He noted that the PTA has not used abusive language towards the Christian religious organization. “We just stated, making a reference to information of NEWS.am agency, that the young man, who killed his parents, is a member of the organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses, according to evidences of his neighbors,” said Harutyunyan.

    On December 9, 2010, the Christian religious organization of Jehovah's Witnesses submitted a claim against the Public Television of Armenia, as well as journalists Gevorg Altunyan, Sona Torosyan, Nune Alexanyan to the court of general jurisdiction of Kentron and Nork-Marash administrative districts. Specifically, they are accused of “publishing and disseminating wrong information concerning honor and dignity of Jehovah’s Witnesses.”

    http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/society/news/59668/RA_Public_Television_denies_accusations_of_Jehovahs_Witnesses

    F Lady Lee posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:28:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    So the WTS is claiming he was never a JW. Were his parents Witnesses? Was he raised as one? Did he go out in service? Go to the meetings for 23 years? Did he have to avoid doing all the things Witness kids have to avoid?

    If the answer to any one of those is YES then he was considered a Witness.

    Satanus posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:41:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    If he reported time in door to door, that closes the case. He's a rep of the wt corp.

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    M DaCheech posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:41:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    how petty, and they're gonna get alot of press.......... negative press: I say!

    F Lady Lee posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:45:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    His neighbours told police and journalists that he had been an active Jehovah's Witness,

    http://www.armeniandiaspora.com/showthread.php?251999-Murder-Puts-Pressure-On-Armenia-s-Minority-Faiths

    TheLoveDoctor posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:46:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    it is intresting how u can be an unbaptised publisher viewed as a witness and never really be one but u can slave for the org like one

    carla posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:47:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    I agree with Lady Lee. I understand that in the minds of jw's that if one is not baptized then technically they are not a 'real' jw however, to all the outside world if they were raised, lived the life or if they even go to meetings on a semi-regular basis they ARE a jw.

    behavior is not typical for the organization members.-- I would like to see a ratio done on that, it seems to me that for such a very small org they have pretty high rates of suicide, murders, pedophilia, child abuse, spousal abuse, etc...etc..etc.. much if simply is not reported to the media or authorities.

    M Wasanelder Once posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:07:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    Remember now kids, not baptized = NOT A WITNESS. You can say he was around it all his life but that doesn't make him one. Its all about baptizm. We know that. You can't be DF'd or DA'd unless you are a witness. Unbaptized publishers are people who have expressed and "interest" in being a witness and not a witness. This is the party line, we all know it, some just want to change the rules to pin this on a "member". Remember, these sort of people are considered a "person of good will". Kind of ironic, eh?

    Band on the Run posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:24:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    Free speech is a good value to the WTBTS. Free speech for others means a lawsuit. In common-law countries, truth is an absolute defense to libel. Armenia may not be the most enlightened nation. We don't know the facts but I don't see why reporters and producers would place themselves vulnerable to a lawsuit unless it were true.

    The press here comments on notable's religion. For instance, so many Supreme Court justices being Roman Catholic is frequently discussed. I wonder who approved the lawsuit?

    carla posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:27:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    Well if they want to use the 'not baptized' thing to get out of this negative publicity then it should go across the board and extend into the blood regulations for minors. ALL jw youth (and older) who are not baptized should be given blood automatically without any regard to jw rules re: blood. They should not be allowed to tell Dr's or any authorities that the child is even associated with jw's. If a jw is not baptized then they should not be allowed to shun them, get in trouble for holidays, etc...etc..etc.. They can't have it both ways.

    wannabefree posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:47:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    Obviously the man is mentally ill. To attribute his actions as being a result of the JW religion is slanderous.

    If the problem the Organization has is simply that he was referred to as a JW and it makes them look bad, then they are obviously extreme in the damage control of their image.

    Now, if the man was associated with the religion and was discouraged to get professional help for his mental illness, that is another issue about the wrongness of the religion's m.o.

    designs posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:48:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    Its the same mindset seen in Christians posting here, a Christian does a horrible act- Presto they aren't a Christian.

    Gee that's easy.

    M Black Sheep posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:51:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    They haven't sued the Telegraph for calling serial killer, Delroy Grant, a JW.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/6584005/Delroy-Grant-charged-over-night-stalker-serial-sex-attacks.html

    M Earnest posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:04:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    Not to detract from the point you are making, Black Sheep, but Delroy Grant is accused of serial rape not serial murder.

    Hoffnung posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:16:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    They might be correct that it is not a typical JW behaviour, but it is not a unique event in the JW history. Remember the bethelite recently killed in a KH by another witness in Frankfurt, Germany. The Society admitted in a letter sent to all congos in Germany the killer was a baptized JW for 2 years . For those interested I have a scan of that letter. It is in German though.

    M Black Sheep posted Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:33:00 GMT(1/15/2011)

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    Whoops. My bad.

    As long as he's sincerely repentant he'll get off with a reproof and won't have to sit in the back row with the DF's when he gets out of jail.

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