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DMCA Complaint from The WatchTower for links to KS-10 'Shepherding' book

    M Simon posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:39:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    Yes, that's right, they really do not like people being able to read that book so they wanted links to it removed (it appears they have also been going after the hosts of the content itself as well).

    Unfortunately, I had to removed the links (which were dead anyway when I checked) and I'd ask that people don't re-post them (sorry). I'm sure there are lots of alternative ways for those with the information to get it to those who need it.

    Here are the discussions on the book:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200524/1/KS10-Chapter-One-Discussion
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200527/1/KS10-Chapter-Two-Discussion
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200581/1/KS10-Chapter-Three
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200585/1/KS10-Chapter-Four-Discussion
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200588/1/KS10-Chapter-Five-Discussion
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200606/1/KS10-Chapter-Six-Discussion
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200648/1/KS10-Chapter-Seven-Discussion

    ziddina posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:44:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    Thanks for the discussions links, Simon!!!

    Yeah, as someone else on-board stated, the fact that the "apostate"sites have the book before many of the elders do, must rankle the governing body something fierce!!!

    Zid

    Soldier77 posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:50:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    muahahahaaaaa

    This is WAR! I love it!

    Oops, I meant to say that I love how we are getting the old foggies up in Brooklyn's panties in a bunch. Too bad it's already OUT and on the internet!

    pirata posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:51:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    According to the new elders manual, whomever filed that complaint may need to be investigated by a judicial committee since they were associating with apostates.

    brotherdan posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:51:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    Most of us have the entire book, though. And it will soon be circulated as a torrent and will be on wikileaks. Anyone that wants to read the book will have no problem finding it from any number of people on this and other sites. The cat is already out of the bag. The GB lost control of this one before they ever had it.

    They need to realize that this GENERATION is different. You cannot hide information like this from us anymore. It will get out. We will overcome the oppression and tyranny of the Watchtower!

    Caelum denique!

    Deus Vult!

    sabastious posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:55:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    Anyone that wants to read the book will have no problem finding it from any number of people on this and other sites. The cat is already out of the bag.

    This is what I was thinking. They must be pretty prideful to spend ANY time on trying to keep it from anyone who wants it, since it's completely futile.

    -Sab

    OUTLAW posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:55:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    Thats hillarious..

    That book is just so frigg`n important!..

    I hope the WBT$ gets to play "Wack-a-Mole" for the next 10 years..

    ........................ ...OUTLAW

    Ultimate Reality posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:03:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    As usual, they attack symptoms rather than looking at themselves.

    Soldier77 posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:03:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    It's funny, the harder they push, the more I want to take the pdf files I have of the whole book and print it up at a place like Kinkos by the hundreds and go hand it out to the public, to the church pastors, etc.

    They must have control issues, I mean really, like it was said above, in this day and age, you really think it will STAY a secret? If they think that, they are living back in the early 1900's or something.

    But for you Bethel lurkers that are reporting to 'mommy', your day wll come when I wish I could tell you to your face, I told you so.

    brotherdan posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:07:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    I wish someone had the balls to do that Solider 77! How great to get this book into the hands of the pastors in the area for their counter JW ministries! We could print them and leave them in the laundry mats where the JWs put their magazines too...I like it.

    ziddina posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:07:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    I've been talking about Brother Dan's wife needing a reality check...

    The Gov.Bod's version of "reality" just got slammed into a brick wall... They don't have NEARLY the level of "control" over their members - especially the elite, male, elders-and-circuit-and-district-overseers section of members - as they thought they had...

    Now they'll have to split their time between the Inquisition to find the elder - or elder's wife - who leaked the book... And writing the next, even-more-oh-so-"SECRET" version... Since this version's secrecy has been compromised - "corrupted" by us nasty lil' apostates...

    Zid

    brotherdan posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:12:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    Who wants to place a bet that they will talk about this situation in a cryptic way in one of the upcoming KMs or WT articles? I hope everyone has an eye out for it. It will be funny to see their condemnation to those that treat their confidentiality with contempt.

    ziddina posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:13:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    "It's funny, the harder they push, the more I want to take the pdf files I have of the whole book and print it up at a place like Kinkos by the hundreds and go hand it out to the public, to the church pastors, etc. ...."

    LOLLOLLOLOL!!!! ROFL!!!! ROFL!!!!

    OOOOOOO, DaMMMM!!! Soldier77, that sounds like SOOOOOO much FUN!!!

    I just might do that.... Maybe place it under windshields at the next Sunday Kingdom Hall meeting...

    Soldier77 posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:13:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    BrotherDan, I am very tempted to do it in my area, that chances for me to be found out are pretty damn high tho. Although...I just had an idea.... hmmm... muahahahahaa

    Oh and Ziddina I like your Inquisition reference, but I was thinking more along the lines of the Crusades. But I get the reference and I like it.

    elderelite posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:14:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    I'm with zid.. the silly boys in brooklyn fail to realize the reality... the book didn't fall off the back of a truck. Someone who HAD the book PURPOSLY scanned it and passed it on to our dear sis Knotingham so she could share...

    Think fellas... an ELDER posted HIS book on the INTERNET, specifically an "apostate" web site! What does this tell you about your org... how much dissent is there.. But of course you will end up thinking its just one rouge elder... one rotten apple... *sigh*... this is why there is no change in sight.

    M Poztate posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:14:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    I wonder if they have ever heard of a TORRENT...LOL

    Soldier77 posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:17:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    Well, I have already printed a copy for myself. I should go into work on Saturday and print a few more and drop it on the doorstep of a few high profile churches in the area in a little "care-package" by a unanimous donor.

    I'm feeling quite feisty... (that's 7 devils people, the mark of perfection!) ROFL!

    brotherdan posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:17:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    Actually both of those "Battle Cries" I posted WERE the battle cries for some of the first crucaders, Solider 77.

    M Simon posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:18:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    I don't know why they don't just trust in Jehoobah to remove the content for them ... (barf)

    Soldier77 posted Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:19:00 GMT(10/21/2010)

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    BrotherDan, I was going to google those cries you posted because I knew that it would mean something appropo to the topic, but I didn't.

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