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2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance!

    Gayle 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:20:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    United States Arizona

    Post 874 of 1067
    Since 11/17/2006

    According to August Kingdom Ministry for U. S., memorial attendance was 2,469,036.  In 2008, it was 2,418,903.

    cabasilas Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:29:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit




    Post 1418 of 1657
    Since 10/28/2005

    any comment on partakers?

     

    shamus100 Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:38:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit




    Post 2995 of 3768
    Since 2/10/2008

    REally?  I got 1 percent with those numbers. 

    Gayle Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:53:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    United States Arizona

    Post 875 of 1067
    Since 11/17/2006

    2009 August Kingdom Ministry scanned  at:  jwsupportforum.com

    Shamus, you have a PM.

     

    Gayle Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:54:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    United States Arizona

    Post 876 of 1067
    Since 11/17/2006

    No mention of partakers, just attendance total 

    shamus100 Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:03:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit




    Post 2998 of 3768
    Since 2/10/2008

    Hi Gayle,

    No, I do believe it's 1 percent. 

    2,418,903/2,469.036 = .979 percent, so 1 percent??  Am I cracking up? 

    Anyone have seventh grade math here? 

     

     

    Fadeout Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:08:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 516 of 529
    Since 10/20/2007

    Sorry to be a math geek, but here's the calculation for percentage gain:

    1st, find the numerical gain: 2,469,036 - 2,418,903 = 50,133

    2nd, divide the numerical gain by last year's number: 50,133 / 2,418,903 = .0207 = 2.07% gain

    shamus100 Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:09:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit




    Post 2999 of 3768
    Since 2/10/2008

    Okay,

    You're right, I"m wrong, I"m going to bed. 

    wha happened? Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:01:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    United States California

    Post 3234 of 4015
    Since 10/2/2004

    would like to know about those partaking

    RubaDub Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:34:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    United States

    Post 1905 of 2063
    Since 1/20/2003

    Sorry to be a math geek, but here's the calculation for percentage gain:

    Another geeky comment buy it may be easier just to think of:   (New Number) divided by (Old Number) - 1

    2,469,036 / 2,418,903  = 1.0207    then minus 1  = .0207 or 2.07%

    Rub a Dub

    slimboyfat Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:50:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    Afghanistan

    Post 3389 of 3503
    Since 11/24/2004

    2% increase is about par for the course these days - not great but not terrible either. Things have been cruising along with mediocre growth for a few years now and look to be continuing that trend. The figures are no longer good enough to make Witnesses feel good about it, nor are they bad enough to give ex-Witnesses much encouragement that collapse or even decline is in the offing.

    Black Sheep Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:59:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    New Zealand

    Post 2727 of 3818
    Since 8/8/2003

    I want to see a scan

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    Cult crazed Kiwi unwraps towel from head and demands evidence of this travesty

    "Bollocks" he cries, risking his membership at the number 1 ApostaJW website.

    Gimme proof.

     

     

    Reniaaaaaa.  Help me darlin.

     

     

    insearchoftruth Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:11:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit

    United States Virginia

    Post 1302 of 1564
    Since 2/9/2006
    Bangalore Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:36:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit



    Post 50 of 248
    Since 3/9/2009

    But how many of those new attenders going to become JW's?

     

    Bangalore

    shamus100 Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:17:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit




    Post 3007 of 3768
    Since 2/10/2008

    But how many of those new attenders going to become JW's?

    They're not.  They are generally people that feel guilty (the people we don't like to talk about... disfellowshipped and go through theyre whole lives feeling guilty and never going back), the non-believing husbands and wives (that do it to keep the peace), and all the other inactive people that do it to keep a foot in the door "just in case". 

    To not go to the memorial is quite a statement these days. 

    Justitia Themis Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:18:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    Uzbekistan

    Post 854 of 993
    Since 2/21/2006

    If I remember correctly, Memorial attendance always well exceeded the baptism rate.  It would be interesting to compare historical Memorial attendance growth percentages against baptisms to see if there is a pattern.  One might be able to roughly project baptism rates by the computation. 

     

    BluesBrother Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:06:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    United Kingdom England

    Post 5321 of 5688
    Since 10/29/2001

    Well, they still call it the highest number ever recorded, even though it is a very modest increase.

    In reality Memorial attendance has less to with real interest than with the enthusiasm and arm twisting of the local dubs who cajole and physically deliver family members and the inactive ones to that meeting only .

    NB I read also the article in the scanned K M "Meeting The Challenge of Witnessing To Men"...Are they top heavy with sisters? Should I expect a little bit of interest from the dubs when I go along with my wife? - That would be a change.

    slimboyfat Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:15:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    Afghanistan

    Post 3393 of 3503
    Since 11/24/2004

    I have always taken memorial attendance as a measure of nominial affiliation, ( a growing number of hangers-on) not an indicator of future growth.

    Bible study figures have historically been a better indicator of growth. Bible studies went up in the early eighties and good growth followed. On the other hand in recent years the Bible studies figure has gone up and it has not been accompanied by increased growth. Last year the number of Bible studies actually exceeded the number of publishers. I might be wrong but I think that is the first time that has happened.

    elder-schmelder Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:25:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    United States Minnesota

    Post 112 of 196
    Since 6/18/2008

    I am so happy that I am not in that number anymore !!!

     

     

    elder-schmelder

    Billy the Ex-Bethelite Re: 2% increase in 2009 U.S. Memorial Attendance! posted Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:54:00 GMT (7/9/2009) edit


    Virgin Islands (U.S.)

    Post 1651 of 2277
    Since 11/29/2007

    With the terrible economy and loss of jobs, more have time to attend rather than use work or vacation as an excuse. And secondly, their preaching gloom and doom should scare a few more than usual into attending, just in case armageddon would come the next month after the memorial... which it didn't.

    Of course, with that rational, there should have been at least a 5-10% increase in observers. Oh well, I guess Jesus should have mentioned AIG and Wall Street in Revelation by name.

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