Medical Cannabis

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    M NomadSoul posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:37:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    It's intriguing how many types of strains a grower can make from just one. Anyways, didn't mean to hijack the thread.

    F mrsjones5 posted Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:40:00 GMT(12/3/2010)

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    Anyways, didn't mean to hijack the thread.

    No problem, the back and forth was interesting.

    Botzwana posted Sat, 04 Dec 2010 04:05:00 GMT(12/4/2010)

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    I am for legalizing it too. I would love to smoke it as I did in my youth. I did take it in pill form when I had cancer.

    Darth plaugeis posted Sat, 04 Dec 2010 04:19:00 GMT(12/4/2010)

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    HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    F cognizant dissident posted Sat, 04 Dec 2010 07:25:00 GMT(12/4/2010)

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    Any of you people watch "Weeds". It is the most hilarious show. I'm totally addicted. (to the show, that is )

    The_Present_Truth posted Sat, 04 Dec 2010 14:28:00 GMT(12/4/2010)

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    Great show. The last season wasn't quite as good as the seasons before. We missed the rest of the characters that rounded out the show in the first few seasons.

    The_Present_Truth posted Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:45:00 GMT(12/4/2010)

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    MrsJones ...

    Here's a video that you and hubby should watch. Nomad Soul may want to watch it too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sr58DBJ0Dw&feature=related

    Botzwana posted Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:10:00 GMT(12/4/2010)

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    Why does the society say that a plant created by Jehovah God is evil?

    Nickolas posted Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:05:00 GMT(12/4/2010)

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    While I support the legalisation if not decriminalisation of cannabis, I might put forward a couple of small cautionary notes from personal experience. It can become a daily habit - I guess it does become a daily habit if used medically, but I used it recreationally, mostly daily. When I used it I enjoyed it very much, even though I used small quantities. An ounce would last me a couple of months. But there were things about it that I did not like by the time I gave it up. Mostly, it made me paranoid, it sometimes got my head wrapped around depressing thoughts and it sapped my ambition. I was content to sit in front of the TV, take a couple of tokes and watch Kung Fu reruns (now I'm dating myself, for sure) while munching on potato chips and sucking back a couple beers or cola. I also found myself doing it in the morning sometimes and that had the usual result of writing off the entire day. It was hard to get things done. You also do not under any circumstance want to operate machines for a few hours after using it because it distorts reality. For me, cannabis was a double edged sword. It altered my perceptions considerably and, I think, beneficially. I gleened insights into things I would not otherwise have seen. But it also made me stupid. It wrecks concentration and makes one prone to mistakes. The stone wears off, so the aforementioned effects are mostly temporary - mostly, but not entirely, because THC builds up to serum levels in the bloodstream. The more often you toke, the more it builds in your bloodstream and some of the negative aspects of the drug stay with you in the background until you are off it for several weeks. I can still sometimes recognise a heavy user, even when he isn't high.

    Just to emphasize, mrsjones, I am not anti-cannabis. Cannabis is a lot safer than many prescription drugs in use, so it should not be discounted, but it is easy to abuse. What is different for me than when I was younger is I now have the self control of an older man. If I find myself in a health situation that might benefit from its use, I will use it again. Like any other drug it affects different people different ways. Most people can handle it, some cannot. You just need to be a little circumspect.

    My $0.02

    dssynergy posted Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:47:00 GMT(12/4/2010)

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    I have just started using medical marijuana for my depression in the last month. I think it is really helping. I use a vaporisor. If you want any suggestions about which one I use, PM me.

    As far as the JWs go - I recently talked it over with an elder - during a general conversation and in very generic terms - he said that there is no issue taking the marijuana itself, that smoking is the issue. He also said that if he were taking the marijuana, he wouldn't tell anyone else about it. Don't want to offend anyone. The reason I chose to vaporise, other than not wanting to "smoke" because it is bad for my lungs - is so that if anyone found out I was using marijuana, the smoking would not be an issue. I'm still "in" although on the fringes and fading as fast as I can.

    I have to say for me, the relief from my suicidal ideation was nearly immediate with the marijuana. One day, I was considering jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. I was desperate. Then, I smoked some pot, and all that noise in my head went away. You can't imagine (unless you've experienced it yourself) what a relief that is not to be debating with yourself about living or dying.

    I live in the NW, and this winter is kicking my butt. I am starting to feel better though and I think it is all due to the marijuana. I smoke a little every night to help me sleep. And I do sleep deeper and longer than I normally do without it.

    I have a contact that makes edibles if anyone wants to purchase them. He will mail them to you - and since it is in cookies there is little chance of getting caught. :-) PM me for info.

    Nickolas posted Sun, 05 Dec 2010 00:20:00 GMT(12/5/2010)

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    Sounds great, dssynergy. I found the same thing. Lifted me right up. It was just after a little more than two years of steady use I had to find another way because it had the effect of magnifying depressive thoughts. But the same kind of thing happens after long term use of alternative prescription drugs if I am not mistaken. My understanding is you're not supposed to stay on Prozac more than 12 months, although a lot of people do anyway. But only because it is man-made vs natural I suspect it may be a more dangerous drug than cannabis. I don't know for sure. I am sure there are many people who have been using cannabis for much longer than I did who always find the effects enjoyable.

    You just need to decide that you don't plan to keep doing this drug for the rest of your life, because it has the potential to mess you up a bit. Another side effect I remembered after making my first post in this thread is I had experienced what you might consider lost days while using it. Not blackouts, nothing like that. Marijuana alters time perspective. It can seem like time is dragging while on the high side of the experience but when you come down in a few hours it can almost seem like it was only minutes ago you smoked up. Smoke more than once a day, as many casual users do, parts of the whole day can disappear from your memory in a blurr. You can have confidence in yourself that you will not do anything stupid while high, so there's little concern there. But you should also not do anything you absolutely must remember doing, because if you get stoned enough there is no guarantee you will in fact remember what you did. If you read a book, you may need to reread it later. If you watch a television program you may need to watch it again. I guess you can call that a negative side-effect, although some people actually like getting high and watching the same thing over and over again on TV. Great way to spend your time. Using even just a little alcohol with cannabis accentuates the high and time distortions, so I seldom drank more than a couple of beers while on it. Use it with a lot of alcohol and it can really mess you up. Edit: Which is to say, if you have a bit of an alcohol problem now, I recommend you don't smoke cannabis.

    I guess I'm up to $0.04.

    edit $0.06. Last one, promise.

    F mrsjones5 posted Sun, 05 Dec 2010 21:09:00 GMT(12/5/2010)

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    Thanks for the info guys. I appreciate it.

    F cognizant dissident posted Sun, 05 Dec 2010 21:50:00 GMT(12/5/2010)

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    One more caution that I learned in my course in psychiatric nursing. In certain people, usually those prone to mental illness, marijauna can trigger episodes of psychosis. I don't know how often this happens, statistically, but it is just something to be aware of and to watch for. One more possible side effect.

    That being said, I'm sure there are many who take it who never have such problems.

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