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What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News

KW13	What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:19:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
England Post 3999 of 4551 Since 1/9/2006	Well i think its probably the best thing we've had happen in a long time. Mum was stunned to say the least and apart from a few lame reasons why this could possibly happen, she was pretty speechless. She tried to say the Society had dealt with it the moment they heard of the Sexual abuse themselves but a second run through the video pretty much dealt with that, as the first Pedophile mentioned was known to have abused since the 70's and the Society were aware of him existing. She then said well in some states as the video says it isnt necessary to report it and that witnesses dont condone abuse but i said to her, neither do individual catholics but it still went on and that law isnt an excuse if you claim to be no part of the world. WOW! She was just taking it all in and couldnt really do much about the whole thing....First time ever i've seen her like this, just totally defeated and the whole time she was here she was deep in thought...
AK - Jeff	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:31:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
Indiana Post 6636 of 11704 Since 11/19/2004	I hope that scene is repeated all over this planet today and in future days. Let us know how it goes in time. Jeff
jgnat	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:32:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
Alberta Post 13900 of 21101 Since 7/4/2002	That is neat. Thanks for sharing.
Junction-Guy	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:36:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
Tennessee Post 3397 of 6023 Since 1/2/2003	The fact that they mentioned Rick Maclean was very powerful and icing on the cake.
KW13	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:37:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
England Post 4000 of 4551 Since 1/9/2006	I hope that scene is repeated all over this planet today and in future days. Let us know how it goes in time. Jeff Definitely! We both know Jeff that beneath those excuses were covering panic, confusion and some questioning, i feel they were a disguised way of searching out the answers and seeing if indeed there was a bulletproof case. It turns out there is. That is neat. Thanks for sharing. My Pleasure The fact that they mentioned Rick Maclean was very powerful and icing on the cake. made a big difference!
Peppermint	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:54:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
England, Northamptonshire Post 360 of 712 Since 1/2/2004	"WOW! She was just taking it all in and couldnt really do much about the whole thing....First time ever i've seen her like this, just totally defeated and the whole time she was here she was deep in thought..." This just makes me feel so sad, I have seen the same expression on my mum's face and it breaks my heart. I always have to stop talking at that point. Coming to terms with the reality of the truth is hard to take especially for those who have spent a lifetime at it. Be easy on her.
blondie	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:57:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
Post 23716 of 36395 Since 5/28/2001	My nonjw MIL saw it. We reminded her that her own Lutheran church had an abuse case that they swept under the rug as well as all the cases in the Catholic Church and other Protestant churches. The important thing is to hold religious leaders accountable for these abuse cases they hide and don't report and the harassment of victims.
KW13	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:07:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
England Post 4001 of 4551 Since 1/9/2006	This just makes me feel so sad, I have seen the same expression on my mum's face and it breaks my heart. I always have to stop talking at that point. Coming to terms with the reality of the truth is hard to take especially for those who have spent a lifetime at it. Be easy on her. will do My nonjw MIL saw it. We reminded her that her own Lutheran church had an abuse case that they swept under the rug as well as all the cases in the Catholic Church and other Protestant churches. The important thing is to hold religious leaders accountable for these abuse cases they hide and don't report and the harassment of victims. yeah, no one is above this kinda thing which is what annoyed me with the Watchtower Article regarding the very same thing in Catholic Churches...they have nerve dont they.
kerj2leev	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:23:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
Post 883 of 1300 Since 8/28/2006	Great job Kdub. the whole time she was here she was deep in thought... This is a scary place for most JW's.
A&S	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:20:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
Post 3 of 23 Since 11/6/2007	Go to MSNBC.MSN.com Breaking News and you can see the article .
sspo	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:45:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
Post 1244 of 2172 Since 6/25/2006	Just like 2001after the dateline story, many networks picked up the story, we hope it will go all over the globe and many JW's will wake up. They will think twice before putting down other religions.
Lady Liberty	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:55:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
Post 2308 of 2680 Since 3/18/2006	Dear KW, That is wonderful!! Think of how many others won't know what to say either!! No doubt this is going to disturb MANY JWs for a long long time!! Sincerely, Lady Liberty
KW13	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:25:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
England Post 4002 of 4551 Since 1/9/2006	Thanks guys, yep its sure making a good dent in the side of the Society and their squeaky clean image they've tried to maintain. For any lurking JW, consider motives rather than action...why are we doing this? why the effort? because actually we want to break down this organization and HELP people, this is what you are in. Wake up!!
ninja	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:38:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
Scotland, Glasgow Post 2442 of 5895 Since 10/5/2006	hi KW....I'm not doing it to help them.....its just I'm a nasty apostate........he he.....only kidding lurker dudes
KW13	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:53:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
England Post 4003 of 4551 Since 1/9/2006	thats because your a ninja!!
Hipraptor	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:48:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
Post 10 of 11 Since 11/15/2007	I have just read the article and the links and I see in the media statement released by the JW info office that they still have their head in the sand and make out that abuse is rare.
dogisgod	Re: What Happened - Showed Mum the Feature from NBC News posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:05:00 GMT (11/22/2007)
Washington Post 90 of 875 Since 10/4/2007	My mom watched it too. There was a little epiphany for me in the conversation afterwards. She said, "Well I would have called the police!!!!" (although she didn't when it happened to me....it was a non jw fam member) and I said "Mother, the society is not you...they were covereing up for years and now how many thousands of guys or women have gotten away with it and how many thousands of kids are messed up?" I think because my mom was raised by a man-hater she never looked to the elders for anything. she just did her own thing (sometimes hypocritical but if SHE thought it was right to hell with them). Anyway, due to fear of lawsuits instead of fear of God they stay rectal cranniel.

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