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    M KW13 posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:19:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    Well i think its probably the best thing we've had happen in a long time.

    Mum was stunned to say the least and apart from a few lame reasons why this could possibly happen, she was pretty speechless.

    She tried to say the Society had dealt with it the moment they heard of the Sexual abuse themselves but a second run through the video pretty much dealt with that, as the first Pedophile mentioned was known to have abused since the 70's and the Society were aware of him existing.

    She then said well in some states as the video says it isnt necessary to report it and that witnesses dont condone abuse but i said to her, neither do individual catholics but it still went on and that law isnt an excuse if you claim to be no part of the world.

    WOW! She was just taking it all in and couldnt really do much about the whole thing....First time ever i've seen her like this, just totally defeated and the whole time she was here she was deep in thought...

    M AK - Jeff posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:31:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    I hope that scene is repeated all over this planet today and in future days.

    Let us know how it goes in time.

    Jeff

    F jgnat posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:32:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    That is neat. Thanks for sharing.

    M Junction-Guy posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:36:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    The fact that they mentioned Rick Maclean was very powerful and icing on the cake.

    M KW13 posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:37:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    I hope that scene is repeated all over this planet today and in future days.

    Let us know how it goes in time.

    Jeff

    Definitely! We both know Jeff that beneath those excuses were covering panic, confusion and some questioning, i feel they were a disguised way of searching out the answers and seeing if indeed there was a bulletproof case. It turns out there is.

    That is neat. Thanks for sharing.

    My Pleasure

    The fact that they mentioned Rick Maclean was very powerful and icing on the cake.

    made a big difference!

    M Peppermint posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:54:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    "WOW! She was just taking it all in and couldnt really do much about the whole thing....First time ever i've seen her like this, just totally defeated and the whole time she was here she was deep in thought..."

    This just makes me feel so sad, I have seen the same expression on my mum's face and it breaks my heart. I always have to stop talking at that point. Coming to terms with the reality of the truth is hard to take especially for those who have spent a lifetime at it. Be easy on her.

    F blondie posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:57:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    My nonjw MIL saw it. We reminded her that her own Lutheran church had an abuse case that they swept under the rug as well as all the cases in the Catholic Church and other Protestant churches. The important thing is to hold religious leaders accountable for these abuse cases they hide and don't report and the harassment of victims.

    M KW13 posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:07:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    This just makes me feel so sad, I have seen the same expression on my mum's face and it breaks my heart. I always have to stop talking at that point. Coming to terms with the reality of the truth is hard to take especially for those who have spent a lifetime at it. Be easy on her.

    will do

    My nonjw MIL saw it. We reminded her that her own Lutheran church had an abuse case that they swept under the rug as well as all the cases in the Catholic Church and other Protestant churches. The important thing is to hold religious leaders accountable for these abuse cases they hide and don't report and the harassment of victims.

    yeah, no one is above this kinda thing which is what annoyed me with the Watchtower Article regarding the very same thing in Catholic Churches...they have nerve dont they.

    M kerj2leev posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:23:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    Great job Kdub.

    the whole time she was here she was deep in thought...

    This is a scary place for most JW's.

    A&S posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:20:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    Go to MSNBC.MSN.com Breaking News and you can see the article .

    sspo posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:45:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    Just like 2001after the dateline story, many networks picked up the story, we hope it will go all over the globe and many JW's will

    wake up. They will think twice before putting down other religions.

    Lady Liberty posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:55:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    Dear KW,

    That is wonderful!! Think of how many others won't know what to say either!! No doubt this is going to disturb MANY JWs for a long long time!!

    Sincerely,

    Lady Liberty

    M KW13 posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:25:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    Thanks guys, yep its sure making a good dent in the side of the Society and their squeaky clean image they've tried to maintain. For any lurking JW, consider motives rather than action...why are we doing this? why the effort? because actually we want to break down this organization and HELP people, this is what you are in. Wake up!!

    M ninja posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:38:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    hi KW....I'm not doing it to help them.....its just I'm a nasty apostate........he he.....only kidding lurker dudes

    M KW13 posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:53:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    thats because your a ninja!!

    Hipraptor posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:48:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    I have just read the article and the links and I see in the media statement released by the JW info office that they still have their head in the sand and make out that abuse is rare.

    F dogisgod posted Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:05:00 GMT(11/22/2007)

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    My mom watched it too. There was a little epiphany for me in the conversation afterwards. She said, "Well I would have called the police!!!!" (although she didn't when it happened to me....it was a non jw fam member) and I said "Mother, the society is not you...they were covereing up for years and now how many thousands of guys or women have gotten away with it and how many thousands of kids are messed up?" I think because my mom was raised by a man-hater she never looked to the elders for anything. she just did her own thing (sometimes hypocritical but if SHE thought it was right to hell with them).

    Anyway, due to fear of lawsuits instead of fear of God they stay rectal cranniel.

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